Originally posted by GEOFFHAYES
Which Sugar has fought the best Opposition?
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Yeah true, but this is 4 great fighters! 4 great fighters that he beat more times than they beat him! Don't get me wrong I'm a tremendouse fan of Leanards talents. But the fact remains he did'nt beat great fighters to become champion in all the weight classes! a GREAT ACHIEVER for sure but still does'nt compare with the true Suger man!Originally posted by ParodyRay Leanard has a better Resume IMO...champion in five different weight classes, Beaten Duran Twice, Hearns, Hagler and Benitez.
Overall Leonard fought better opposition/competition
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Leonard also had more skills then Robinson!Originally posted by elgaringoYeah true, but this is 4 great fighters! 4 great fighters that he beat more times than they beat him! Don't get me wrong I'm a tremendouse fan of Leanards talents. But the fact remains he did'nt beat great fighters to become champion in all the weight classes! a GREAT ACHIEVER for sure but still does'nt compare with the true Suger man!
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Robinson beat his opponents in much better style than Leonard did. Most people feel Hagler was robbed against Ray. Duran had already won over Ray Leonard and Hearns was robbed of a revenage win when they rematched.Originally posted by ParodyRay Leanard has a better Resume IMO...champion in five different weight classes, Beaten Duran Twice, Hearns, Hagler and Benitez.
Overall Leonard fought better opposition/competition
So, yes on paper5 Leonard looks better but in reality i.e anyone who had watched these fights, Robinson beat most of his opponents, Leonard was given a points dec. This is the difference!Comment
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Here is the way I see it
Leonard fought 4 people that were probably better than Robinson's 12 B level fighters.
Marvin Hagler > Jake Lamotta, Fullmer, Basilio
Hearns > Zivic, Angott, Gavilan
Duran > Turpin, Olson, Graziano
SRL fought Benetiz too...
IMO Leonard fought better opposotion and beat them, and the fights Leonard beat would have beaten the fighters Robinson beatComment
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Duran won once against Leonard in a VERY CLOSE fight, Robinson lost to Lamotta, Basilio, Fullmer...etc etc etc...Originally posted by KimmyRobinson beat his opponents in much better style than Leonard did. Most people feel Hagler was robbed against Ray. Duran had already won over Ray Leonard and Hearns was robbed of a revenage win when they rematched.
So, yes on paper5 Leonard looks better but in reality i.e anyone who had watched these fights, Robinson beat most of his opponents, Leonard was given a points dec. This is the difference!
Leonard beat Duran twice so he won the Trilogy, he beat Hagler, he STOPPED Tommy Hearns...Comment
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Well now thats a silly comment if I ever heard one! But I guess your entitled to your opinion. Watching Robinson fights, because there in black and white (Not to mention bad quality) it's not easy to stay concentrated to realize the ability. But just watch some of his fights and try to imagine your tvs playing up and the fight happened last weekend.Originally posted by Gunstar1Leonard also had more skills then Robinson!
You'll see he had everything leanard had and more. Leanard spent so much time planning his next move, while through Robinsons career he just did his thing all the while. No posing there then
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Robinsons record is rather padded, I mean.. how many fights did he have with Lamotta? Not that Lamotta was a joke, but it was pretty clear SRR was the better fighter.
He fought Young Joe Walcott 3 times from what I can remember, that man was just a bum, SRR won every single time.
Many fans are too intimidated by the boxing communities thoughts of SRR to challenge his record, I don't think he is this P4P god that everybody talks of, no doubt he is #1 P4P and one of the most skilled athletes the sport has ever seen, but his accomplishments can be surpassed, and IMO have been.Comment
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