Best brit since 1980? ?

[GEOFFHAYES]

(Calzaghe did a Lacy on Eubank's cousin and chose to box his ass off instead of try to KO him because he was a slugging cruiserweight ie too dangerous).

That's Bobbie Joe Edwards. Joe fought him the following week he put Frank Minton (who had been in with six former or future world champions) to sleep, proving he could box as well as punch.

[Run]

Nobody expected Eubank to put up such a good fight, indeed people feared for his safety, especially after having to lose 20lbs in seven days, post-Watson he'd never shown that heart and drive again until the Calzaghe fight. It was much closer than expected, he made the wild boy dig deep, and was the first person to ever withstand Calzaghe's power of punch (Calzaghe did a Lacy on Eubank's cousin and just boxed his ass off because he was a slugging cruiserweight).

Right and Eubank did show heart.

But that also doesn't change the basic fact that Joe is not exactly the most difficult guy to hit.

The scoring in that fight could be closer if someone took a penchant in awarding effort.

Eubank landed but Calzaghe landed way too many ****ing chopping shots on top of Eubank's head.



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[GEOFFHAYES]

I remember Joe using sweeping left hooks over and over, more so than the right hook, against Eubank.

[Mattyp151]

That's Bobbie Joe Edwards. Joe fought him the following week he put Frank Minton (who had been in with six former or future world champions) to sleep, proving he could box as well as punch.

Edwards ******, all he had going for him against Joe was size, and it was only like 8 pounds. The guy ended up 6-16.

Minton was about 8 years out of his "prime", for the lack of a better word, and was only beating the likes of Strickland at that point in his career.

Joe proved nothing against two severely overmatched opponents. 49 losses between them, I wouldn't exactly use them of proof of anything except Joe can beat guys he should beat.

[GEOFFHAYES]

Back then, Calzaghe had scarey power. The shot he hit Tyler Hughes with was unreal, he jumped in and swung a 100% arm punch with a kind of ****y expression on his face and Hughes went flying and was out before he hit the canvas.

Killing himself to make weight and a fragile hand have prevented him hitting as hard as he did in his early career.

[GEOFFHAYES]

Edwards ******, all he had going for him against Joe was size, and it was only like 8 pounds. The guy ended up 6-16.

Minton was about 8 years out of his "prime", for the lack of a better word, and was only beating the likes of Strickland at that point in his career.

Joe proved nothing against two severely overmatched opponents. 49 losses between them, I wouldn't exactly use them of proof of anything except Joe can beat guys he should beat.

Hey, I was just saying it proved at the time that he could box as well as punch. He knocked an opponent CLEAN out, then the following week won every second of every round with dazzling skills against a real slugger who was clearly naturally bigger.

[Toddy]

i think lang beat duran (correct me if im wrong) if so that is a great achievement depending on when he actually beat him though

[Mattyp151]

Hey, I was just saying it proved at the time that he could box as well as punch. He knocked an opponent CLEAN out, then the following week won every second of every round with dazzling skills against a real slugger who was clearly naturally bigger.

When you do it against guys who present no threat, it proves nothing. Have any of Hector Camacho's fights proven anything except his last fight and his Weis fight? Nope. Those were by far his two best opponents and he got beaten by both.

[GEOFFHAYES]

Kirkland had so much talent, a complete waster. Bomber had even more talent, but was avoided like the plague. Honeyghan lacked talent, and discipline for that matter, but was determined enough in the ring.

Pre-Watson Eubank was the best of the lot.

[GEOFFHAYES]

I remember thinking Calzaghe was going to seriously hurt Eubank, he'd clearly lost every minute of every round in the second Collins fight (outrageous scoring) and looked Very lacklustre in the Middle East. Calzaghe proved his chin, heart and stamina that night though - kind of the missing pieces of the jigsaw.