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  • daggerdeux
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    #161
    Originally posted by Franko
    Naseem Hamed was a better, and a more focused fighter in 95. He deteriorated as a fighter leading up to the Barrera fight, especially post Brendan Ingle. Hamed claimed that when he seperated from Brendan Ingle he would bring in a trainer that would help his progress as a fighter, and when Steward was mentioned i thought that this would be the case, however, as already mentioned, Saurez was added to the mix and Hamed didn't progress at all IMO, which is a great shame because he was possibly the most talented fighter in British history.
    You guys keep stating Hamed is supposedly this but this clown would never set his foot in Canastota. I do not give a **** how Hamed took down bums left and right. A true measure of greatness is how you fought greats and last time I check, Naz fought only one great fighter and was schooled. So the end justify the means, Naz was a pretty good fighter, not great.

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      #162
      Originally posted by daggerdeux
      You guys keep stating Hamed is supposedly this but this clown would never set his foot in Canastota. I do not give a **** how Hamed took down bums left and right. A true measure of greatness is how you fought greats and last time I check, Naz fought only one great fighter and was schooled. So the end justify the means, Naz was a pretty good fighter, not great.
      What about Hopkins?

      He was so great that even he did make anyone look great. He dominated the MW division for a long time.

      Roy Jones too was way outta his league in his time and he used to play basketball at the same day of the fight.

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        #163
        Originally posted by eazy_mas
        What about Hopkins?

        He was so great that even he did make anyone look great. He dominated the MW division for a long time.

        Roy Jones too was way outta his league in his time and he used to play basketball at the same day of the fight.
        name me a legit "great" middleweight that he made look ordinary.

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          #164
          Originally posted by eazy_mas
          What about Hopkins?

          He was so great that even he did make anyone look great. He dominated the MW division for a long time.

          Roy Jones too was way outta his league in his time and he used to play basketball at the same day of the fight.
          Roy Jones and Hopkins are Canastota bound and Hamed is not.

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            #165
            Originally posted by m00ks
            name me a legit "great" middleweight that he made look ordinary.
            Hopkins made the previously undefeated Johnson ordinary.
            Hopkins made Tarver ordinary.

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              #166
              Originally posted by m00ks
              name me a legit "great" middleweight that he made look ordinary.
              you cant tell because he made most of the look ordinary.

              and the MW division has a lot of people.

              He made Tito and DLH look ordinary espcailly Tito because damn he is a puncher could really punch

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                #167
                Originally posted by daggerdeux
                Hopkins made the previously undefeated Johnson ordinary.
                Hopkins made Tarver ordinary.
                Put the word "great" next to Johnson or Tarver and tell me what how you feel...

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                  #168
                  Originally posted by eazy_mas
                  you cant tell because he made most of the look ordinary.

                  and the MW division has a lot of people.

                  He made Tito and DLH look ordinary espcailly Tito because damn he is a puncher could really punch

                  DLH and Tito were NEVER legit middleweights. Tito had the power at middleweight but that don't make you one.

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                    #169
                    Originally posted by daggerdeux
                    Roy Jones and Hopkins are Canastota bound and Hamed is not.
                    you cant really tell because he never really showed his full potential during MAB fight and then went to off the scene.

                    But if you seen Hamed moves around espcaily hes begining fight how he dodges punchs.

                    He is like punching to many combos and in a flash the guy punch and he slips it.

                    you gotta say that he is entertaining and that what drew crowd to him. There is many fighters in England but he success against there odds.

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                      #170
                      Originally posted by m00ks
                      Put the word "great" next to Johnson or Tarver and tell me what how you feel...
                      So Tito is not legit great middleweight. To me that is more his natural weight.

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