Bert Sugar's Top 100 Fighters Of All Time...

[daggerdeux]

Like i told the other poster you have your opinion.

Ruben Oliveras was a huge puncher at bantamweight, very feared puncher. I've read many boxing journalist consider Oliveras the best batamweight of all-time.

Isn't Jofre the fighter who only fougth in Venezula or somthing?

Olivares was definitely a harder puncher than Jofre but Jofre has some pop too. Olivares has a weak chin. Jofre overall has a better resume than Olivares. He fought everywhere but mostly in Brazil.

[ferocity]

Olivares was definitely a harder puncher than Jofre but Jofre has some pop too. Olivares has a weak chin. Jofre overall has a better resume than Olivares. He fought everywhere but mostly in Brazil.

First time i remember hearing about Jofre was on a boxing Fourm, before that i can't recall.

I've heard about Ruben Oliveras years ago in Ring Magazine, boxing show programs, and so on. Ring Magazine i've read call him the best bantamweight.

Oliveras could also box as was evident when he was beating Arguello. Oliveras knows his way around the ring. They say that he was not training properly after awhile cause he just keep winning and loved beer and parties.

I've only see 1 fight and a few clips of Oliveras, and his fights and boxing style at times -depends which fight and who he fought- could bet taken lightly. But those who seen him through out his era acknowledge how great he was.

[Azteca]

re ferocity:
jofre's career surpasses olivares' career, easily. look him up and you will see why he was the lower weight version of sugar ray robinson.

[ferocity]

re ferocity:
jofre's career surpasses olivares' career, easily. look him up and you will see why he was the lower weight version of sugar ray robinson.

I've never seen him fight, only heard about him when i started going to boxing fourm more specifictly, max boxing board. Other then that i never heard from him before. I've seen countless boxing matchs mention Ruben Olivers on tv and boxing magazines, many times these boxing shows or boxing article would refrer to Oliveras as the best bantamweight ever. So i respect your opinion, but i seen too many reference that say Oliveras is the best Bantemweight ever, to not give Oliveras the respect he earned.

[bsrizpac]

Interesting list... I was looking mainly at his heavyweights. He's got the likes of Ezzard Charles and JJ Walcott in there, but no Big Len?

!! Anorak What a moronic, worthless piece of **** you are. You're a dumb punk kid who says things like "Nuthugger" and "hater". To think you had the AUDACITY to question my boxing knowledge. ****ing BIGOT

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LOL. Once again Anarok proves what a four year old he is.

Still pretending to keep up the intelligent boxing debate? Clown.

And by the way if you had ever read any of Ferocities posts you'd know what I was talking about fool.

To wit:

If you make lame gifs that aren't funny but insulting to professional fighters, like making up **** about how they hit their wives, then you really dont have the right to call people out on "pwned" and "nuthugging".

If you want to call people out on being mature, try to act your own age old man.

Please keep all the red karma coming. It shows what a pathetic little lonely man you really are.

[Guest]

!! Anorak What a moronic, worthless piece of **** you are. You're a dumb punk kid who says things like "Nuthugger" and "hater". To think you had the AUDACITY to question my boxing knowledge. ****ing BIGOT

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LOL. Once again Anarok proves what a four year old he is.

Still pretending to keep up the intelligent boxing debate? Clown.

And by the way if you had ever read any of Ferocities posts you'd know what I was talking about fool.

To wit:

If you make lame gifs that aren't funny but insulting to professional fighters, like making up **** about how they hit their wives, then you really dont have the right to call people out on "pwned" and "nuthugging".

If you want to call people out on being mature, try to act your own age old man.

Please keep all the red karma coming. It shows what a pathetic little lonely man you really are.

Wow, you joined this thread just to flame me? I'm honoured.

Why don't you **** off to kindergarten so we can get on discussing boxing, moron bigot?

Oh, and the red K is there for a reason... it says to the forum "this guy is a useless moron... disregard everything he says."

[Silence]

1- Sugar Ray Robinson
2- Harry Greb
3- Henry Armstrong
4- Sam Langford
5- Ezzard Charles
6- Roberto Duran
7- Muhammad Ali
8- Manny Pacquiao
9- Joe Louis
10- Benny Leonard
11- Joe Gans
12- Floyd Mayweather Jr.
13- Archie Moore
14- Sugar Ray Leonard
15- Willie Pep
16- Canelo Alvarez
17- Tommy Hearns
18- Sandy Saddler
19- Carlos Monzon
20- Kid Chocolate

Honorable mentions: Marvin Hagler, Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, Bob Fitzsimmons, Alexis Argüello and Pernell Whitaker.

[FaustoGeraci]

I remember back when this forum actually intelligently discussed boxing, and wasn’t overrun by trolls and racists.

[FaustoGeraci]

1- Sugar Ray Robinson
2- Harry Greb
3- Henry Armstrong
4- Sam Langford
5- Ezzard Charles
6- Roberto Duran
7- Muhammad Ali
8- Manny Pacquiao
9- Joe Louis
10- Benny Leonard
11- Joe Gans
12- Floyd Mayweather Jr.
13- Archie Moore
14- Sugar Ray Leonard
15- Willie Pep
16- Canelo Alvarez
17- Tommy Hearns
18- Sandy Saddler
19- Carlos Monzon
20- Kid Chocolate

Honorable mentions: Marvin Hagler, Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, Bob Fitzsimmons, Alexis Argüello and Pernell Whitaker.

willie pep 15? He’s easily top 10 and most have him top 5

[BodyBagz]

Are these lists made on merit or rep ?