Why Floyd will never be the greatest boxer of all time...

[elgaringo]

i havent heard ONE person say that he is p4p the greatest of all time AT THIS STAGE. and u if u cant debate or even consider the fact that PBF could be P4P the greatest ever, after beating the fighters i mentioned before, then YOU are the part-time boxing fan

What you need to do is go on google and type in Suger Ray Robinson. Then Henry Armstrong. Look at Harry Greb, Sugar Ray Leanard, Archie Moore, Benny Leanard, Willy Pep, Joe Ganns.

These are just a few fighter that beat several hall of famers. Yes I can debate he could be the best ever.... But so could Hatton if he beat all the best in his era! Oh and so could Jermain Taylor, so could a string of guys. OOOOOOOh and so could my mate Daz Parker who has a 9 - 0 record.

Mayweather has'nt beat a top fighter since he struggled with Castillo 4 years ago . This is why this thread is a joke! People like you believing all the hype . But then again YOU might be right! I might just be a part time fan .

[Guest]

with fights against ouma and mora comin up next, he aint gonna lose in a while. lol

but if he loses to THEM then i agree.

but it doesnt matter if u though he won or not, professional judges saw him win both hopkins fights and gain a draw against winky wright. If he beats wright, i dont think u could NOT induct him into the hall of fame :P

I think there's too much talk about HOF fighters... it's like a wide open door at the moment. If Taylor takes narrow (one split) decisions over a HOF in his 40s, then takes a win over Wright (who is also above his weight class and not exactly a spring chicken) I disagree that Canastota should start pencilling his name in...

[elgaringo]

DLH looked phenomonal in his last fight

and MOSLEY looks like he's 95% back to what he once was.

both fighters are fighting like they were a long time ago.

If PBF beats them both, then he should get only slightly less credit then he would get had he beaten them in their primes.

thats why PBF has to beat them convincingly to get the FULL amount of credit and i personally think he can do it

I personally think he can't! But... Opinions make the world go round eh I would bet with you on either fight though.

[JMCbulls]

What you need to do is go on google and type in Suger Ray Robinson. Then Henry Armstrong. Look at Harry Greb, Sugar Ray Leanard, Archie Moore, Benny Leanard, Willy Pep, Joe Ganns.

These are just a few fighter that beat several hall of famers. Yes I can debate he could be the best ever.... But so could Hatton if he beat all the best in his era! Oh and so could Jermain Taylor, so could a string of guys. OOOOOOOh and so could my mate Daz Parker who has a 9 - 0 record.

Mayweather has'nt beat a top fighter since he struggled with Castillo 4 years ago . This is why this thread is a joke! People like you believing all the hype . But then again YOU might be right! I might just be a part time fan .

take it easy, he hasnt heard of them yet.


but yes, i agree, if floyd keeps hand picking opponents and worrying more about his record then wat ppl think, no way he will be the greatest.

heres one example why, srl's notable wins-
Duran (2)
Drew with Hearns, and beat him
Hagler


the simple fact that not one fighter of that caliber (from 130-147) is alive today, makes it nearly impossible for him to surpass even one of the ppl elgaringo listed. which is sort of sad, b/c even if he does fight 2 or 3 of the best in the next couple years, those 2 or 3 best, wont b able to compare to duran, hearns, or hagler.

[deliveryman]

Uhm, if Floyd moved up to middle and beat Jermaine Taylor, rofl yes I would call him in my top 3 greatest of all time, especially if he beat Winky, Mosley, DLH, Hatton, Ouma along the way.

[elgaringo]

take it easy, he hasnt heard of them yet.


but yes, i agree, if floyd keeps hand picking opponents and worrying more about his record then wat ppl think, no way he will be the greatest.

heres one example why, srl's notable wins-
Duran (2)
Drew with Hearns
Hagler


the simple fact that not one fighter of that caliber (from 130-147) is alive today, makes it nearly impossible for him to surpass even one of the ppl elgaringo listed. which is sort of sad, b/c even if he does fight 2 or 3 of the best in the next couple years, those 2 or 3 best, wont b able to compare to duran, hearns, or hagler.

Add benitez and the win against Hearns to thet

[bakey321]

Wow, a new stalker, huh?

Come on, moron, Hatton has had just ONE fight at that level. Who's to say at this stage that beating an old Zoo who'd come off a long layoff wasn't a freak occurence? Does just ONE win at that level prove irrevocably that he belongs?

The Middleweight champion of the world is as green as **** - he sc****d past Hopkins and DIDN'T beat Wright. I think you'll find it was a DRAW.

And WTF has DLH and Mosley being "HOF" got to do with them not looking old? Is being a future HOF fighter an elixer of youth and no one's told me?


Wow, no sense and a pompous, self-righteous loud mouth. "Go figure".

Obviously you see what you want to see. Hatton has been a world champ in two weight classes and is undefeated (yet he's overrated?). DLH and Mosley just knocked out guys who were veteran fighters, not great I'll admit, but still considered tough opponents. And how can you seriously try to take away Taylor's accomplishments? He fought to a draw with the #2 P4P fighter in the world and beat a Champion that hadn't lost in over a decade TWICE. Believe me, I'm not a stalker (don't flatter yourself) I'm just trying to rid the world of ignorance starting with you. Funny that you downplay the accomplishments of 4 world champs and some future hall of famers just because you don't like Floyd. P4P, Baby.

[K-DOGG]

Even if the guy beats everyone put in front of him now, the level of competition will never be good enough at this stage in his career to cement his legacy against history.

I know there are a lot of younger posters here and some boxrec followers who get overexcited when they see a live talent, but please... don't lose respect for history.

That is all.

In all fairness to Floyd, ....nah. I can't do it. When you're right you're right, and you are soooo 100% Right, Anorak.

[Kball15]

What you need to do is go on google and type in Suger Ray Robinson. Then Henry Armstrong. Look at Harry Greb, Sugar Ray Leanard, Archie Moore, Benny Leanard, Willy Pep, Joe Ganns.

These are just a few fighter that beat several hall of famers. Yes I can debate he could be the best ever.... But so could Hatton if he beat all the best in his era! Oh and so could Jermain Taylor, so could a string of guys. OOOOOOOh and so could my mate Daz Parker who has a 9 - 0 record.

Mayweather has'nt beat a top fighter since he struggled with Castillo 4 years ago . This is why this thread is a joke! People like you believing all the hype . But then again YOU might be right! I might just be a part time fan .

ummm, thanks for proving my point...

of hatton beat all the greats convincingly, then YES, he could be considered the greatest of all time. If ur mate Daz Parker beat all the greats convincingly, then YES, he could be considered the greatest of all time.

but they WONT because they CANT. Mayweather CAN beat all the greats, and he has to oppurtunity to do so!!! nobody else does

and ur right, mayweather has picked his fighters since after he beat castillo twice, but that doesnt mean he isnt fighting BALDY, MOSLEY, DLH, HATTON, WRIGHT, and even TAYLOR in his future, right?

and if u think for a second that i dont know allll about the guys u listed above, then ur dead wrong. i have read books and biographies on the guys u listed at the top of ur post,

[Kball15]

heres one example why, srl's notable wins-
Duran (2)
Drew with Hearns
Hagler


the simple fact that not one fighter of that caliber (from 130-147) is alive today, makes it nearly impossible for him to surpass even one of the ppl elgaringo listed. which is sort of sad, b/c even if he does fight 2 or 3 of the best in the next couple years, those 2 or 3 best, wont b able to compare to duran, hearns, or hagler.

srl beat hearns... and then got a gift draw that he admits to.

and no one is as good as them today? thats ur guys's problems. u have these old timers hyped up to super gods that nobody will ever top in skill. Many people think that Bernard hopkins is the best fighter since SRL. that tops duran and hearns!

Tommy hearns hearns himself says that JERMAIN TAYLOR could have given any fight of any era a lot of trouble, and says that taylor could have beaten him!!! and dont say he was just being nice, because he was asked that question after the interviewer got him riled up after bringing up losses to leonard and hagler.

And emanuel steward says Jermain taylor is one of the greatest fighters he's ever seen!