Peter says Toney will be his second wife

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  • GunStar
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    #51
    Originally posted by Kid Achilles
    No, because boxing is one sport where you really can never be sure. If I'm wrong on September 2nd it will be just one more fight that I guessed wrong on. We all make mistakes and make bad calls. Honestly, I really won't care much at all. If he wins, I'll give Toney the credit he deserves as one of the best heavyweights on the planet.

    **** just ain't gonna happen though.

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    • Lights0ut
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      #52
      RunWithKnives I'm willing to put my rep on the line. Achilles isn't. He's a talker, and an arrogant poopy-talker..

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      • joeytrimble
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        #53
        i put my rep on the line as well ...james toney is gonna make this guy his *****

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        • Kid Achilles
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          #54
          Just by saying you "put your rep on the line" doesn't mean ****. I am not going to suddenly become a less intelligent person for backing the wrong guy in a fight. It's just a boxing match for God's sake, one of several thousand that will occurr this year. It's not like I'm picking a girl to be my wife and if I make a mistake with my judgement I'll pay for it in a big way a few years down the line. If Toney win's, Toney wins. I will probably get pissed off and maybe break something (you can be sure I'll be drunk as **** come saturday night) but after that, hey it's just a fight.

          But then you have LightsOut who's getting his panties in a bunch over what I have to say about Toney fighting as a heavyweight. It's my opinion. You don't like it, well **** off. Toney is a fat middleweight. A ****ing phenomenal fat middleweight, but he will always be a little man fighting in a division of giants. If he would knuckle down to some serious training and go down to 190 pounds, I would back Toney against ANY cruiserweight in the world. He would beat 'em all, and this is coming from a guy who detests Toney.

          But Peter is a ****ing bull with boxing gloves, as Moore once said about Rocky Marciano. His strength is God given and comes from having an incredibly dense musculature and skeletal system. That's something you are born with. A guy like Klitschko had the strength to tie him up when he got close to minimuize his roughhouse tactics but Toney is very physicaly weak at heavyweight. Rahman, Ruiz, these guys all pushed him around the ring in every clinch with ease. Peter is much stronger than Ruiz and even Rahman IMO. He is going to force Toney to fight every second and Toney will not be able to clinch.

          Toney is in somewhat good condition for his physical state but a lot of his so called stamina is his ability to relax his muscles and only move when it's absoutely neccesary. Peter is going to be on him like a boar on slop, punching, pushing, pulling, and backing Toney up at all times. Look how tired a physically weaker and chinny Rahman had Toney just by pushing on him and exerting his will on him. It won't exactly be a walkover. Sure, Toney will score and dazzle with some nice looking counters, perhaps even get Peter's attention, but eventually when there is that much of a strength, youth, and size advantage, the cruder but extremely durable man will win.

          Once again, Peter wins this one big.

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          • Lights0ut
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            #55
            Originally posted by Kid Achilles
            It's my opinion.
            Which you consistenly state as fact, but when called upon to put your rep where your mouth is, you backpeddal like a ringley brother.

            You're an arrogant coward, and thank you for providing me with more quotes to stuff down your throat on Sunday morning.

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            • Kid Achilles
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              #56
              Explain to me how I'd "put my rep where my mouth is". A reputation is not a physical value you can put up for grabs. I mean, I guess if I'm wrong on the fight people will think less of my opinion, one way or another, but that isn't going to change regardless of what I say right now. I am almost certain of Peter's victory while you think Toney can't possibly lose. We're both set in our opinions. The difference between us is, my having a strong opinion seems to really piss you off whereas I don't care what you think.

              If Toney wins, I will recognize him as one of the best heavyweights in the world. That's about the only change in me that result would bring.

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              • Lights0ut
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                #57
                Originally posted by Kid Achilles
                Explain to me how I'd "put my rep where my mouth is".
                By admitting your half-assed opinions (Peter is Foreman, Toney can't take a real HW punch, blah blah blah) stated as absolute fact are moronic, dumb, have no credibility, and you know nothing about boxing. That's a start.

                I am almost certain of Peter's victory while you think Toney can't possibly lose. We're both set in our opinions.
                The difference is when I make an absolute prediction I put my credibility on the line....you talk the talk, but don't walk it. That's why you're a coward, and a prick, and will be reminded of such Sunday morning.

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                • Crazy Dude
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by RunWithKnives
                  Where were those stats taken from?

                  There's no possible way they're accurate either. Toney does not have 18' calf muscles, that's absurd.
                  You can find those numbers all over the internet.

                  Google "tale of the tape" and the fighters name
                  Last edited by Crazy Dude; 08-30-2006, 10:26 PM.

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                  • Lights0ut
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                    #59
                    "I'd like to see Toney fight Wladimir, Samuel Peter (a fight he'll never take), and perhaps a rising star like a Sultan Ibragimov before I consider him the man at heavyweight."

                    Talk about anything boxing related here. Where the boxing discussion is always Non Stop!


                    -Kid Achilles

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                    • Kid Achilles
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                      #60
                      Wow, you are really something there, pulling up an old post where I said Toney would never take the Peter fight. Hey, I didn't think he would. I was wrong. Deal with it, you're talking to a human being not a psychic.

                      Let's just see what your boy brings to the table, besides saggy ***** **** and a pack of franks along the back of his neck, on saturday night. His fans won't be there to fight for him then.

                      Keep it up though, the more **** you talk tonight, the more satisfying Toney getting knocked out will be on the 2nd.

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