Peter says Toney will be his second wife

[Run]

**** Peter and his dumb English...I can just imagine him sayin that ****.

Would you prefer him to speak in Swahili?



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[Nautilus]

Would you prefer him to speak in Swahili?

not to be a dork... but Swahili is not spoken in Nigeria ... from what i know

[Kid Achilles]

The outcome of this fight was decided, not in training, but when each man was born. Peter, a natural superheavyweight of James Jeffries's build, one of the naturally densest and strongest men I've seen fight at the world level, and Toney, a 5'9" former middleweight with an eating disorder.

You might know every parry, shoulder roll, and feint in the book but if you're a medium framed middleweight you aren't going to beat a man who is skeletal and muscle wise that much superior to you on top of having a world class chin and underrated skills.

I mean Bernard Hopkins had some great skills in his prime too but could could you see him beating Samuel Peter if he spent a few years living at BK and putting on 75 pounds? Keep in mind that Hopkins is a big middleweight, likely bigger in bone structure than Toney.

The guy is amazing against the right opponents but his body cannot take a shot from a monster heavyweight puncher like Peter. Look, Mickey Walker was twice as tough as James Toney and very skilled as well and yet a determined, fit, and very strong Max Schmeling still put a beating on him, largely due to the difference in frame size.

I mean Hasim Rahman was not even hitting Toney with good shots but he was still wearing Toney down, hurting his body.

You can't just put on 30,40,50,60 or 70 pounds of muscle and fat and expect to compete well with naturally bigger men. The skeleton is the foundation of the body and however big it is at adulthood is how big it's going to stay. This is why Roy Jones Jr., however fast he was, could never survive at heavyweight.

Toney would be cruiserweight champion of the world if he can make the weight limit, but at heavyweight, against the big punchers, he is always going to come up "short".

[Lights0ut]

The outcome of this fight was decided, not in training, but when each man was born. Peter, a natural superheavyweight of James Jeffries's build, one of the naturally densest and strongest men I've seen fight at the world level, and Toney, a 5'9" former middleweight with an eating disorder.

After Toney wins will you admit you know nothing about boxing, and that your opinion is completely irrelevant?

[RyanSpaulding]

Would you prefer him to speak in Swahili?

How about not trying to talk **** in a languange you cant speak well? I laughed my ass off when i saw the clip of dude saying "NO ONE CAN MATCH MY POWA!". **** was funny.

Go Toney.

[Crazy Dude]

The outcome of this fight was decided, not in training, but when each man was born. Peter, a natural superheavyweight of James Jeffries's build, one of the naturally densest and strongest men I've seen fight at the world level, and Toney, a 5'9" former middleweight with an eating disorder.

You might know every parry, shoulder roll, and feint in the book but if you're a medium framed middleweight you aren't going to beat a man who is skeletal and muscle wise that much superior to you on top of having a world class chin and underrated skills.

I mean Bernard Hopkins had some great skills in his prime too but could could you see him beating Samuel Peter if he spent a few years living at BK and putting on 75 pounds? Keep in mind that Hopkins is a big middleweight, likely bigger in bone structure than Toney.

The guy is amazing against the right opponents but his body cannot take a shot from a monster heavyweight puncher like Peter. Look, Mickey Walker was twice as tough as James Toney and very skilled as well and yet a determined, fit, and very strong Max Schmeling still put a beating on him, largely due to the difference in frame size.

I mean Hasim Rahman was not even hitting Toney with good shots but he was still wearing Toney down, hurting his body.

You can't just put on 30,40,50,60 or 70 pounds of muscle and fat and expect to compete well with naturally bigger men. The skeleton is the foundation of the body and however big it is at adulthood is how big it's going to stay. This is why Roy Jones Jr., however fast he was, could never survive at heavyweight.

Toney would be cruiserweight champion of the world if he can make the weight limit, but at heavyweight, against the big punchers, he is always going to come up "short".

Sounds good in theory but you've got Tyson and Tua who are pretty much the same height. And Chris Byrd who also started off as a middleweight.

I can picture any of those guys beating Peter. I think Peter's going to win but I don't think its impossible it could go the other way.

[Crazy Dude]

It sounds like Peter is trying to imitate American trash talking but hasn't got it quite right. He should just stick to being a nice polite man. Some people have a talent for trash talking and some don't.

[BrooklynBomber]

The outcome of this fight was decided, not in training, but when each man was born. Peter, a natural superheavyweight of James Jeffries's build, one of the naturally densest and strongest men I've seen fight at the world level, and Toney, a 5'9" former middleweight with an eating disorder.

You might know every parry, shoulder roll, and feint in the book but if you're a medium framed middleweight you aren't going to beat a man who is skeletal and muscle wise that much superior to you on top of having a world class chin and underrated skills.

I mean Bernard Hopkins had some great skills in his prime too but could could you see him beating Samuel Peter if he spent a few years living at BK and putting on 75 pounds? Keep in mind that Hopkins is a big middleweight, likely bigger in bone structure than Toney.

The guy is amazing against the right opponents but his body cannot take a shot from a monster heavyweight puncher like Peter. Look, Mickey Walker was twice as tough as James Toney and very skilled as well and yet a determined, fit, and very strong Max Schmeling still put a beating on him, largely due to the difference in frame size.

I mean Hasim Rahman was not even hitting Toney with good shots but he was still wearing Toney down, hurting his body.

You can't just put on 30,40,50,60 or 70 pounds of muscle and fat and expect to compete well with naturally bigger men. The skeleton is the foundation of the body and however big it is at adulthood is how big it's going to stay. This is why Roy Jones Jr., however fast he was, could never survive at heavyweight.

Toney would be cruiserweight champion of the world if he can make the weight limit, but at heavyweight, against the big punchers, he is always going to come up "short".

A good big guy usually beats a good little guy.

[BrooklynBomber]

After Toney wins will you admit you know nothing about boxing, and that your opinion is completely irrelevant?

ITs funny, but Achiless is the guy who proved to have some of the best knowledge on the site,
He also got one of the best track records in picking winners.

[Mishra100]

The outcome of this fight was decided, not in training, but when each man was born. Peter, a natural superheavyweight of James Jeffries's build, one of the naturally densest and strongest men I've seen fight at the world level, and Toney, a 5'9" former middleweight with an eating disorder.

You might know every parry, shoulder roll, and feint in the book but if you're a medium framed middleweight you aren't going to beat a man who is skeletal and muscle wise that much superior to you on top of having a world class chin and underrated skills.

I mean Bernard Hopkins had some great skills in his prime too but could could you see him beating Samuel Peter if he spent a few years living at BK and putting on 75 pounds? Keep in mind that Hopkins is a big middleweight, likely bigger in bone structure than Toney.

The guy is amazing against the right opponents but his body cannot take a shot from a monster heavyweight puncher like Peter. Look, Mickey Walker was twice as tough as James Toney and very skilled as well and yet a determined, fit, and very strong Max Schmeling still put a beating on him, largely due to the difference in frame size.

I mean Hasim Rahman was not even hitting Toney with good shots but he was still wearing Toney down, hurting his body.

You can't just put on 30,40,50,60 or 70 pounds of muscle and fat and expect to compete well with naturally bigger men. The skeleton is the foundation of the body and however big it is at adulthood is how big it's going to stay. This is why Roy Jones Jr., however fast he was, could never survive at heavyweight.

Toney would be cruiserweight champion of the world if he can make the weight limit, but at heavyweight, against the big punchers, he is always going to come up "short".

I think you make a good point if you were talking about another fighter other than James Toney and Samuel Peter...

James Toney has some of the best rolls and movement defense in the game and thats why he has been able to create the great resume he has today. James Tony won again Evander Holyfield/ basically Rahman/ Jirov(after taking many many hits) and went through the weight classes like crazy. He is a suprising good fighters only because of his skills, not because of his training.

If Samuel Peter didn't do anything but try and throw bombs for 1-6 rounds until he wore out then he could have a chance. Peter is going to try for this exact same thing and is going to fail because you just can't hit Toney flush on the face. If you do his chin stands up until he can roll the rest of the punches away.

Peter is going to do exactly what James Toney wants him to do, and that is throw punches so Toney and counter Peter enough to wear him out early then knock him out in the 8th-12th.

I'm really glad this fight is quite popular because that does make it an exciting one to think about and probably to watch.