Has anyone gotten so far on so little talent as Dillian Whyte.

[Monty Fisto]

His balance is poor and his conditioning frequently looks questionable, yet he has got decent results. He's tough and strong, and even in the Povetkin and Joshua fights, he was causing them problems before he got KO'd. His technique is a little unconventional and isn't great, but I disagree about the speed of those hooks. I think he's hands are reasonably fast.

I think he has managed to out-perform where his technique is at, but it is a decent resume.

[LetOutTheCage]

Wilder, Breezele, Martin, Miller? Basically half the current 'top' US heavyweights

[Mason Brown]

It isn't that he doesn't have talent, it's that he wasn't well schooled, has little to no amateur background, and we've seen him learn on the job. Whyte has been in big fights, headlined PPV cards during his learning process, he's very marketable, he's made a lot more money than some world champions who were good amateurs.

[xxlefthookxx]

Wilder.

End of thread.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Drop the mic. Class dismissed.

[dan_cov]

Whyte has beaten Chisora twice, second time with a brutal knock out.

Chisora twice, Rivas, Parker, Browne, Helenius, Wach 'And if he beats Povetkin, for sure he has a deeper resume than Tyson Fury'.

Tyson Fury has not beaten Deontay Wilder twice, he was knocked down twice in the first fight and backed up all night 'Why are you making things up?'.

Tyson Fury does not have a deep resume, Cunningham had done nothing at heavyweight 'Wallin has still done nothing, has 1 half decent win' against a out of condition Breazeale.

Helenius is a more proven, and better fighter than Wallin etc

He clearly easily outboxed Wilder in the first fight and was robbed.

Helenius and Wach are complete garbage, as-is Browne.
How can you claim they have done nothing but list bums like Wach?

Tyson beat much better versions of Chisora in much better style.
Whyte arguably got a gift decision in the first fight and was arguably losing the second until he landed a hail Mary.

They were never any good let alone aged 40 God knows what when Whyte narrowly sc****d by them. Like seriously they probably was no better at that stage of their careers than a Kevin Johnson when Fury beat him.
Nobody names guys like Johnson though but people seem to mention these guys for Whyte to talk up his resume.

All 5 years past their best and have no notable wins vs prime opposition. They've all been beaten multiple times in much better fashion but nobody gives anyone else credit for beating them. Whyte seems to get a lot of praise for them though.

[KingGilgamesh]

Wilder has an Olympic bronze medal after 18 months of boxing, which is already more than Whyte has ever achieved. I dont think people realise the ****ing insane difficulty it is making it to the Olympics in combat sports. You HAVE to be talented as the pool of competition is always deep. Wilder has more natural athletic talent than most of the division. You can claim he's the worst fighter in the history of mankind, but nothing will negate the fact that Joshua *****ed out of fighting him and only found a pen when DAZN forced his and Hearn's hand.

Whyte is just junk. He has no redeemable qualities. Poor chin, poor jab, poor footwork. He is a dog and has grit but thats about it. For all the **** we can talk about Wilder, he's been effective at securing a right hand in every fight except his last. Whyte has been dropped multiple times and looked shaky against questionable opposition.

[Inspired]

Wilder has an Olympic bronze medal after 18 months of boxing, which is already more than Whyte has ever achieved. I dont think people realise the ****ing insane difficulty it is making it to the Olympics in combat sports. You HAVE to be talented as the pool of competition is always deep. Wilder has more natural athletic talent than most of the division. You can claim he's the worst fighter in the history of mankind, but nothing will negate the fact that Joshua *****ed out of fighting him and only found a pen when DAZN forced his and Hearn's hand.

Whyte is just junk. He has no redeemable qualities. Poor chin, poor jab, poor footwork. He is a dog and has grit but thats about it. For all the **** we can talk about Wilder, he's been effective at securing a right hand in every fight except his last. Whyte has been dropped multiple times and looked shaky against questionable opposition.

no matter how many times you try to repeat a lie, it won't make it true.
wilder ducked aj, plain and simple. hid behind a fake offer with finkle and frank warren both contradicting each other on the terms and also proving why it wasnt a real offer eg aj has a contract with sky sports, so why would ugly frank be involved for bt sports? makes no sense whatsoever.
then there's the fact finkle publically said they were accepting $15m, then made excuses to stall the deal long enough for canelo-ggg to clash with the booked september date...all of which happened with espinoza heavily involved.


as for wilder winning bronze after only 18 months in the sport
he started at 19 right?
he's 35 now, so he was 19 in 2005..
he was at the 2008 olympics
you complete imbecile. it's no wonder you believe a load of bs.

[Inspired]

whyte has a poor chin...
but at least he put himself in the firing line early by fighting joshua and parker.

wilder only took tyson fury because 1) he thought it was a 50% fat fury and 2) he saw the otto wallin fightand thought 'now he's vulnerable'.

[deathofaclown]

Derek chisora is a good one also.... JCCjr

Probably unfair on Chisora. He’s pretty useful with his style of fighting. He was a decent amateur too.

The thing with Chisora is he’s just not good enough at the higher level and falls short but usually makes a good account of himself, so he keeps getting good fights and more losses.

But I wouldn’t say he lacks talent. he is a decent fringe world level pressure fighter.

[KingGilgamesh]

no matter how many times you try to repeat a lie, it won't make it true.
wilder ducked aj, plain and simple. hid behind a fake offer with finkle and frank warren both contradicting each other on the terms and also proving why it wasnt a real offer eg aj has a contract with sky sports, so why would ugly frank be involved for bt sports? makes no sense whatsoever.
then there's the fact finkle publically said they were accepting $15m, then made excuses to stall the deal long enough for canelo-ggg to clash with the booked september date...all of which happened with espinoza heavily involved.


as for wilder winning bronze after only 18 months in the sport
he started at 19 right?
he's 35 now, so he was 19 in 2005..
he was at the 2008 olympics
you complete imbecile. it's no wonder you believe a load of bs.

Wilder literally entered a gym in October 2005. He qualified in early 2008 and his first amateur fight was 2007. You do realize that just because you walk into a gym doesn't mean your actually start your boxing career. No, of course you dont you dumb **** because you're a keyboard warrior (like most AJ fans) whose never stepped near a ring in your life.

Also not wasting my time arguing about counter offers. Hearn, being the weasel his is, proved himself as such. DAZN then took it out of his hands and made Wilder a 120m offer themselves. THAT's what Wilder turned down.

Can't even ****ing spell, typical chav tosser.