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  • #21
    Originally posted by club fighter View Post
    Hrgovic #3 ?? You mean the guy that got decided by Yoka in the amateurs? Cause he beat Molina, Mansour and Rydell Booker?

    Usyk, #5 when he hasn't fought a top 50 heavyweight opponent?

    Hard to take that list seriously with tomfoolery like that.
    If you stop looking at boxrec and watched fights you would see why I have him at 3 .

    If Toms a fool you must be him if you think Yoka won that fight which still has no bearing on the rankings of now . .Ha
    Last edited by REDEEMER; 02-21-2021, 10:12 PM.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
      It means a bigger Porter was more effective and probably on PEDs looking at him then which is why he dropped weight ,who knows ? And that was an amateur fight anyway. I know your reaching that’s for sure .You still haven’t explained how you have Joyce a top 5 but he has an official loss to Usyk ,let’s stay on the road and not swerve off it .
      What official loss? It was in the amateurs 8 years ago, just like Porter/Usyk. Completely different ball game right now.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by LeOoze View Post
        What official loss? It was in the amateurs 8 years ago, just like Porter/Usyk. Completely different ball game right now.
        WSOB isn’t the amateurs . It’s pro rules . Still waiting ?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
          WSOB isn’t the amateurs . It’s pro rules . Still waiting ?
          Pro rules but amateur status. it was 8 YEARS AGO. Show me Usyk or Joyce's professional ranks that shows that they fought....I'll wait
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          • #25
            Originally posted by LeOoze View Post
            Pro rules but amateur status. it was 8 YEARS AGO. Show me Usyk or Joyce's professional ranks that shows that they fought....I'll wait
            Status wouldn’t matter ,the rules they fought would . You cannot rank Joyce and not Usyk based off that . It’s a 50/50 fight as well . You had to look it up and found out it was a semi pro bout not an amateur one so you just took another swerve but it only leads to a dead end .

            See you don’t actually have a reasonable answer .

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            • #26
              Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
              Status wouldn’t matter ,the rules they fought would . You cannot rank Joyce and not Usyk based off that . It’s a 50/50 fight as well . You had to look it up and found out it was a semi pro bout not an amateur one so you just took another swerve but it only leads to a dead end .

              See you don’t actually have a reasonable answer .
              Usyk didn't look impressive against Chisora, a past prime club fighter. Joyce looked impressive over Dubois, a top prospect. So there's no reasonable answer for having Joyce above Usyk?

              It wasn't a pro fight at all. It was amateurs. That's why nobody ranking Porter just because he beat Usyk in the ammys. Means nothing.
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              • #27
                Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                1. A.J
                2. Fury
                3. Hrgovic
                4. Joyce
                5. Usyk
                6. Wilder
                7. Povetkin
                8. Whyte
                9. Wallin
                10. Ruiz
                11. Parker
                12. Pulev
                13. Hunter
                14. Martin
                15. Ortiz

                That’s how I see it .
                People will debate #1 till they fight, I personally agree with Aj.

                Hrgovic, Joyce and Wallin far too high.the latter isn’t top15 by any measure


                I’ll go for

                AJ
                fury
                Wilder
                Povetkin
                Whyte
                Ruiz
                Usyk
                Parker
                Ortiz
                Joyce
                Hunter
                Hrgovic
                Pulev
                Yoka
                Chisora
                Last edited by Kezzer; 02-22-2021, 12:18 AM.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Kezzer View Post
                  People will debate #1 till they fight, I personally agree with Aj.

                  Hrgovic, Joyce and Wallin far too high.the latter isn’t top15 by any measure
                  Joyce is fighting in a title elimination bout how is he ranked to high ?

                  Wallin is debatable but Hrgovic is the real deal but if you’re ranking inactive guys or ones who haven’t defeated top 15 guys over Wallin that is a flaw as well.

                  Who has Yoka fought is one that is not realistic over Wallin right now .
                  Last edited by REDEEMER; 02-22-2021, 12:21 AM.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                    Joyce is fighting in a title elimination bout how is he ranked to high ?

                    Wallin is debatable but Hrgovic is the real deal but if you’re ranking inactive guys over Wallin that is a flaw as well.
                    Because Joyce hasn’t beaten or even fought any of the top guys. He looks pretty slow in my view so until he proves himself against someone higher up , he simply isn’t top 5.

                    The likes of wilder, povetkin and whyte would all be favourites against him. If Joyce beats usyk things begin to change.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                      Who has Yoka fought is one that is not realistic over Wallin right now .
                      Yoka hasn’t had many fights, I’ve put him bottom end of my top15 purely based on his last couple wins but time will show whether he will move higher or drop away, just as prospects do.

                      Wallin hasn’t yet beaten anyone of note, most known for his loss to fury in which he did cut him but was soundly beaten.

                      He scored a Decision against brezeale Saturday but didn’t particularly look great doing so, until he fights some others around top15 he is bottom end of top15 at best, but I think he’s sitting just outside top20 personally

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