Re Ranking The Top 15 Heavyweights

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Usyk didn't look impressive against Chisora, a past prime club fighter. Joyce looked impressive over Dubois, a top prospect. So there's no reasonable answer for having Joyce above Usyk?

It wasn't a pro fight at all. It was amateurs. That's why nobody ranking Porter just because he beat Usyk in the ammys. Means nothing.

You saw the Joyce vs Jennings fight ,no I guess you didn’t because he struggled more then Usyk with Chisora and got hurt in round one . After the fight people were calling Joyce a bum because he struggled ,imagine that ...struggling in boxing match ? Ha

The Usyk vs Joyce fight was under pro rules if you can’t understand this there’s no need to go further here .

Usyk is an Olympic champion and former undisputed Cruiserweight champion and undefeated in WSOB as a heavyweight. The tournament actually gave away and had a title of the Muhammad Ali trophy and you’re calling it amateur boxing ?

DDD is a novice with only a few amateur fights,what are you talking about ? Usyk brings an entirely different challenge maybe you just don’t understand they already fought to so,we can gage where it could be at now ? Ha

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Yoka hasn’t had many fights, I’ve put him bottom end of my top15 purely based on his last couple wins but time will show whether he will move higher or drop away, just as prospects do.

Wallin hasn’t yet beaten anyone of note, most known for his loss to fury in which he did cut him but was soundly beaten.

He scored a Decision against brezeale Saturday but didn’t particularly look great doing so, until he fights some others around top15 he is bottom end of top15 at best, but I think he’s sitting just outside top20 personally

Wallin has fought Fury and a former two time title challenger Breazeale , you know Wallin is a top 15 over Yoka and that guy has a rocky start with PED allegations and he hasn’t even got warmed up in the division yet . You know there’s no reason having him in the list .

You know Yoka didn’t look great either his last fight he struggled badly against a fringe contender no one even talks about .

How are you justifying Yoka by “well we’ll see what he proves” vs a Wallin who has proven himself against the current WBC champion ? Yoka just went the distance and huffing and puffing his way to a win over Hammer ? Are we really going to do the reward the guy who wins over less caliber guys again ?

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Wallin has fought Fury and a former two time title challenger Breazeale , you know Wallin is a top 15 over Yoka and that guy has a rocky start with PED allegations and he hasn’t even got warmed up in the division yet . You know there’s no reason having him in the list .

You know Yoka didn’t look great either his last fight he struggled badly against a fringe contender no one even talks about .

How are you justifying Yoka by “well we’ll see what he proves” vs a Wallin who has proven himself against the current WBC champion ? Yoka just went the distance and huffing and puffing his way to a win over Hammer ? Are we really going to do the reward the guy who wins over less caliber guys again ?

You do realise wallin lost against fury right? By your logic if Dave Allen fights Joshua, wilder and fury over the next 3 weeks but loses all 3 - he probably moves up to rank 4 in the world!

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Because Joyce hasn’t beaten or even fought any of the top guys. He looks pretty slow in my view so until he proves himself against someone higher up , he simply isn’t top 5.

The likes of wilder, povetkin and whyte would all be favourites against him. If Joyce beats usyk things begin to change.

There’s no way Whyte defeats a guy like Joyce . Whytes a tough customer but that’s just a terrible match up for him . You have to be defensively savvy for that guy ,Whyte would be knocked out within mid rounds .

Wilder and Joyce is a 50/50 fight .

I didn’t rank Parker high either if at all until he gets a legit which has been absent for 3 years , you can’t just rank guys high based off a name up it’s more what they’re doing now .

Edit : Got Parker a generous 11 .

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You do realise wallin lost against fury right? By your logic if Dave Allen fights Joshua, wilder and fury over the next 3 weeks but loses all 3 - he probably moves up to rank 4 in the world!

Allen has several losses and is known as being punchy that’s why he retired in just 25 fights . Come on you can put up a better reasoning then Dave Allen .

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1. A.J
2. Fury
3. Hrgovic
4. Joyce
5. Usyk
6. Wilder
7. Povetkin
8. Whyte
9. Wallin
10. Ruiz
11. Parker
12. Pulev
13. Hunter
14. Martin
15. Ortiz

That’s how I see it .

I guess you started this thread to get comments on your list. Fury is usually ranked above AJ due to AJ being KOed by Ruiz Wilder has only lost once so should be a little higher Ortiz should not be so low and would easily beat Martin and probably beat Hunter, Walling is too high for a guy who's claim to fame is putting up a good fight but still losing to Fury by wide UD. Usyk is too high and Wilder would probably beat him. I doubt Hrgovic, if that is the correct spelling of his name, is the 3rd best heavyweight in the world.

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I guess you started this thread to get comments on your list. Fury is usually ranked above AJ due to AJ being KOed by Ruiz Wilder has only lost once so should be a little higher Ortiz should not be so low and would easily beat Martin and probably beat Hunter, Walling is too high for a guy who's claim to fame is putting up a good fight but still losing to Fury by wide UD. Usyk is too high and Wilder would probably beat him. I doubt Hrgovic, if that is the correct spelling of his name, is the 3rd best heavyweight in the world.

Ortiz hasn’t had a legit win in 6 years ? All you guys always doubt ,go back to my Wallin thread from 2 years ago ,you were there too,it’s up now .

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Fury, AJ, Wilder, Ruiz, Povetkin, Joyce, Whyte, Parker, Usyk, Hunter, Ortiz, Pulev, Rivas, Helenius, Wallin. Fixed your list.

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Fury
Joshua
Wilder
Joyce
Usyk
Ruiz
Whyte
Povetkin
Hrgovic
Dubois
Ortiz
Parker
Chisora
Wallin
Hunter

Would love to see arslanbek makhmudov be given a fight with one of those Top 15 guys. I think he would smoke most of those guys based on his insane punching power. Would also be surprised if he couldnt take a good shot judging by his giant frame and head. Is already 31 tho, and i doubt there is someone dumb ernough to give him a shot.

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Fury is N.1.

Joshua is. N. 2.

Than you have guys like Ruiz, Wilder, Povetkin, Whyte, Parker ( in any order)

Than you have, let`s say Joyce, Hunter and Usyk

Than come all others.

Guys like Wallin, Hrgovic, Martin, Helenius, Hughie, Pulev, Ortiz, Kownacki...must figh each other more often to be separated.

Sorry, there is no argument that Ortiz is better than Wallin. wallin beat Breazeale, Ortiz beat Jennings 100 years ago.