Re Ranking The Top 15 Heavyweights

[Boxing Goat]

That's your opinion. When Joyce/Usyk finally fight, I'm putting my money on Joyce. I think Ruiz wins if he shows up disciplined. Either way, it's just my thoughts. It didn't come out of thin air.

No, Usyk beat Joyce already so that part is not just my opinion

[Dr. Z]

1. A.J
2. Fury
3. Hrgovic
4. Joyce
5. Usyk
6. Wilder
7. Povetkin
8. Whyte
9. Wallin
10. Ruiz
11. Parker
12. Pulev
13. Hunter
14. Martin
15. Ortiz

That’s how I see it .

Very good. I would not put Wallin in the top ten. He only had his moments and cut an over rated Fury who's very careful NOT to fight people who can't box and punch.

Marin is very poor, I would not put him in the top 15. Usky to me would clown Joyce.

1. A.J - has beaten the best. A super heavy with skills, and just an average chin,
2. Fury - Very tall and mobile, I think based on his early fights he's hiding a suspect jaw.
3. Hrgovic - Quite possibility the next heavyweight champion of the world. Big, fast, strong, durable,hungry and skilled
4. Usyk - We know more about him than any other prospect. Skilled, durable, a boxer mover type. Is he big enough? I say yes.
5. Joyce - Beat Dubois, but did not really impress. Getting older.
6. Wilder - Could be ready to fall off a cliff, I think he's done.
7. Povetkin - Could be ready to fall off a cliff. He's old.
8. Whyte - A ****er, who can pull off an upset
9. Ruiz - In shape ( 250 ) I'd rate him higher. What's his weight now?
10. Hunter - A very good boxer still in his prime. A little small with limited power.
11. Parker - Still young enough, he needs to be more aggressive
12. Makmudov - Insane power. Good chin, ability to land is decent. A scary looking dude in the ring.
13. Yoka - I don't like him but he's a very mobile big man who can box well with enough power. Chinny, I think. Needs to test clean.
14. Ajagba. - A very big and technical right hand puncher. A little stiff and easy to hit.
15. Vyhryst. Due to age and lack of depth in the top 15, I'm placing this 5-0 fighter here based on top amateur success. Big, skilled, good counter puncher. Lots to prove.

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Very good. I would not put Wallin in the top ten. He only had his moments and cut an over rated Fury who's very careful NOT to fight people who can't box and punch.

Marin is very poor, I would not put him in the top 15. Usky to me would clown Joyce.

1. A.J - has beaten the best. A super heavy with skills, and just an average chin,
2. Fury - Very tall and mobile, I think based on his early fights he's hiding a suspect jaw.
3. Hrgovic - Quite possibility the next heavyweight champion of the world. Big, fast, strong, durable,hungry and skilled
4. Usyk - We know more about him than any other prospect. Skilled, durable, a boxer mover type. Is he big enough? I say yes.
5. Joyce - Beat Dubois, but did not really impress. Getting older.
6. Wilder - Could be ready to fall off a cliff, I think he's done.
7. Povetkin - Could be ready to fall off a cliff. He's old.
8. Whyte - A ****er, who can pull off an upset
9. Ruiz - In shape ( 250 ) I'd rate him higher. What's his weight now?
10. Hunter - A very good boxer still in his prime. A little small with limited power.
11. Parker - Still young enough, he needs to be more aggressive
12. Makmudov - Insane power. Good chin, ability to land is decent. A scary looking dude in the ring.
13. Yoka - I don't like him but he's a very mobile big man who can box well with enough power. Chinny, I think. Needs to test clean.
14. Ajagba. - A very big and technical right hand puncher. A little stiff and easy to hit.
15. Vyhryst. Due to age and lack of depth in the top 15, I'm placing this 5-0 fighter here based on top amateur success. Big, skilled, good counter puncher. Lots to prove.

I think Joyce is going to over power Usyk or Usyk gets by Joyce slightly which makes it a 50/50 fight on the night . Will be close or not at all .

Vykhurst is a prospect ,just like Ajagba , Mahkmudov and Yoka . Those guys don’t belong there , I could put Vykhurst in the prospect list.

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That may be the worst list I've ever seen

You still Haven’t told me the last time Ortiz won a meaningful fight ,what year ?

[Dr. Z]

I think Joyce is going to over power Usyk or Usyk gets by Joyce slightly which makes it a 50/50 fight on the night . Will be close or not at all .

Vykhurst is a prospect ,just like Ajagba , Mahkmudov and Yoka . Those guys don’t belong there , I could put Vykhurst in the prospect list.

Joyce is older and slower. DD was in the lead, what does that tell you? Usykis even better boxer. Bigger men like Chisora did nada vs Usyk, who IMO would out box Joyce.

I think fans underestimate Usyk. He's really not that small. Guy is 6'3" tall with a 78" reach, fine for today. Plus he is a skill southpaw with a good chin.

After the top 5, no one really belongs so I went with good looking un-defeated prospect's like Vykhurst, Ajagba , Mahkmudov and Yoka to fit out spots in the top 15.

These guys are big men, who can move and hit. Very few in the top 15 have a win over each other or vs. a top10 level opponent. IMO Olympic Gold or a European Amateur champion ( Vykhurst ) means something. On Vykhurst he's an unusually skilled guy, as he counters very well for a heavyweight. I put him 15th and Makmudov, Yoka, and Ajagba #12-14th,

[Boxing Goat]

You still Haven’t told me the last time Ortiz won a meaningful fight ,what year ?

I will answer that when you can tell me what criteria you use to rank 14 fighters ahead of him lol

[Boxing Goat]

Very good. I would not put Wallin in the top ten. He only had his moments and cut an over rated Fury who's very careful NOT to fight people who can't box and punch.

Marin is very poor, I would not put him in the top 15. Usky to me would clown Joyce.

1. A.J - has beaten the best. A super heavy with skills, and just an average chin,
2. Fury - Very tall and mobile, I think based on his early fights he's hiding a suspect jaw.
3. Hrgovic - Quite possibility the next heavyweight champion of the world. Big, fast, strong, durable,hungry and skilled
4. Usyk - We know more about him than any other prospect. Skilled, durable, a boxer mover type. Is he big enough? I say yes.
5. Joyce - Beat Dubois, but did not really impress. Getting older.
6. Wilder - Could be ready to fall off a cliff, I think he's done.
7. Povetkin - Could be ready to fall off a cliff. He's old.
8. Whyte - A ****er, who can pull off an upset
9. Ruiz - In shape ( 250 ) I'd rate him higher. What's his weight now?
10. Hunter - A very good boxer still in his prime. A little small with limited power.
11. Parker - Still young enough, he needs to be more aggressive
12. Makmudov - Insane power. Good chin, ability to land is decent. A scary looking dude in the ring.
13. Yoka - I don't like him but he's a very mobile big man who can box well with enough power. Chinny, I think. Needs to test clean.
14. Ajagba. - A very big and technical right hand puncher. A little stiff and easy to hit.
15. Vyhryst. Due to age and lack of depth in the top 15, I'm placing this 5-0 fighter here based on top amateur success. Big, skilled, good counter puncher. Lots to prove.

Where's Ortiz? Did you forget about him?

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I will answer that when you can tell me what criteria you use to rank 14 fighters ahead of him lol

I don’t need a criteria ,Ortiz shouldn’t even be ranked on the list he’s basically inactive without a someone else high ranked for a win more then half a decade .

[Boxing Goat]

I don’t need a criteria ,Ortiz shouldn’t even be ranked on the list he’s basically inactive without a someone else high ranked for a win more then half a decade .

He's not inactive because he fought in November and is ranked in the top ten in every relevant ranking system in the world.
Stop forming rankings based on your numbskull feelings

[Lonelystoner]

Stopped reading when I saw hrgovic joyce and usyk over wilder