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  • #81
    Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

    Okay, LMAO right back. Who was Ortiz last big win, and how old do you think he is now? Please reply. Who has he beaten, who?

    You can argue top 15, I know he's way older than listed and has beaten no one

    I don't rate guys on who they were years ago, I rank them on who they are now..

    Spot check, are you a Wilder fan?
    Lmao @ saying spot check you fkn nobody

    This has nothing to do with Wilder and everything to do with who Ortiz is and his ability.

    Only Wilder has beaten him while losing in both fights

    He would easily beat anyone on most of you or the pathetic TS's list, which is why he's ranked 6th by Ring and 8th by ESPN

    Get the knack ya couple of numbskulls

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post

      Lmao @ saying spot check you fkn nobody

      This has nothing to do with Wilder and everything to do with who Ortiz is and his ability.

      Only Wilder has beaten him while losing in both fights

      He would easily beat anyone on most of you or the pathetic TS's list, which is why he's ranked 6th by Ring and 8th by ESPN

      Get the knack ya couple of numbskulls
      Yet you brought up Wilder first :

      “There goes that theory. Look, I get this is a side entry way of belittling Wilder's resume and that's fine”

      You Wilder fans are easily picked apart when someone asks you something you don’t want to answer , I wouldn’t either . Ha

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      • #83
        Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

        Because of what? Give me some argument.
        Because he's ranked by the top ten by Ring and ESPN and that's due to several things, including him being ranked in the top 5 prior to the Wilder losses and wining since then.

        Furthermore, he's also in the top ten in the following rankings, even though I don't give much weight to them on their own.
        Box.live, Boxingsene, Boxingnews 24, heavyweightboxing.com, WBA, WBC & IBF.

        Now, keep making yourself look more ret@rded and reply
        Last edited by Boxing Goat; 02-26-2021, 04:50 PM.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post

          Yet you brought up Wilder first :

          “There goes that theory. Look, I get this is a side entry way of belittling Wilder's resume and that's fine”

          You Wilder fans are easily picked apart when someone asks you something you don’t want to answer , I wouldn’t either . Ha
          No, it's pretty clear what you're doing. Give people here a little more credit than that

          Not only that, as I said, you are going against pretty much every ranking system known to man so I've rested my case

          That should tell you something but I don't expect a mental patient to know that they aren't mental either

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Nash out View Post
            I stopped reading once I saw Fury wasn't 1.
            Me too. There's some fans that don't have any common sense.
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            • #86
              Originally posted by garfios View Post
              Me too. There's some fans that don't have any common sense.
              Or any boxing knowledge or understanding of the sport at all really

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post

                No, it's pretty clear what you're doing. Give people here a little more credit than that

                Not only that, as I said, you are going against pretty much every ranking system known to man so I've rested my case

                That should tell you something but I don't expect a mental patient to know that they aren't mental either
                My rankings go against most rankings that’s because you dont have votes or ties to anyone on forums you can post free will on here ,that still doesn’t explain you can’t bring any logical arguments to why you say things ? There is no logical thinking of demanding Ortiz a top 10 if he’s not been in wins that count for 6 years unless you just started watching boxing ?

                Ill give you credit but it not the credit you’re going to like ,and that’s credit for being another crazy on here ,won’t give any reason to why Ortiz should be a top guy and use because he’s ranked high by others sites , but you yourself can’t form a reason besides following numbers on a web page and can’t form your own reasons ,it doesn’t work that way ? Ha.
                Last edited by REDEEMER; 02-26-2021, 05:06 PM.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post

                  My rankings go against most rankings that’s because you dont have votes or ties to anyone on forums you can post free will on here ,that still doesn’t explain you can’t bring any logical arguments to why you say things ? There is no logical thinking of demanding Ortiz a top 10 if he’s not been in wins that count for 6 years unless you just started watching boxing ?

                  Ill give you credit but it not the credit you’re going to like ,and that’s credit for being another crazy on here ,won’t give any reason to why Ortiz should be a top guy and use because he’s ranked high by others sites , but you yourself can’t form a reason besides following numbers on a web page and can’t form your own reasons ,it doesn’t work that way ? Ha.
                  Oh, I didn't say that you can't have a ranking of your own, but I felt obligated to tell you how horrible your list is. So I did.

                  Cheers
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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                    1. A.J
                    2. Fury
                    3. Hrgovic
                    4. Joyce
                    5. Usyk
                    6. Wilder
                    7. Povetkin
                    8. Whyte
                    9. Wallin
                    10. Ruiz
                    11. Parker
                    12. Pulev
                    13. Hunter
                    14. Martin
                    15. Ortiz

                    That’s how I see it .
                    Hrgovic, Joyce, and Usyk need to move out of the top ten. AJ, Fury, Wilder and Ruiz are proven top of the division. AJ's last fights have been against Pulev, Parker, and Ruiz. Just because Ruiz and Wilder lost doesn't make them bums. Nobody has beaten down Ruiz like he beat down AJ in the first fight. Wilder got beat down by Fury in the second fight. You can't rate Fury anything but #1 until he gets beat down. AJ had his heart eaten out by Ruiz in #1 and never tried to finish an even fatter Ruiz in #2. Wilder got his heart eaten out by Fury in #2. AJ has not proven to be back to the level he was when he beat an over the hill Klitsko. Face it. The only fighters AJ has been in the ring with in recent years that are not over the hill are Ruiz and Parker. And Ruiz wasted him in one fight and went the distance like Parker did in the other fight.
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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post

                      Ring and ESPN, who matter more than any other ranking, are paid nothing. There goes that theory. Look, I get this is a side entry way of belittling Wilder's resume and that's fine. I couldn't care less. I think Wilder's resume is thin as well. But to act like Ortiz is some bum because Wilder starched him twice is ignorant. Wilder does have ATG power and it's undeniable. Go back to boxing school, I don't have any more time for you.
                      agree with this. It’s hard for us to know just how good both wilder and Ortiz are unfortunately due to their fairly thin resumes but we have a level of idea. I think they can prove their levels and hope they both take on decent opponents this year to prove it

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