Comments Thread For: Oscar Valdez To Shakur Stevenson: I Heard You Want To Fight - Let's Do It!

[Vasyl’s dad]

Valdez doesn’t need a miracle to beat Stevenson lol... who the phuck had Stevenson beat so that valdez would need a miracle to beat him??? Stop it jab

He beat his girlfriends brother! Shakur deserves 12 million and is the next ppv star! He called out Valdez!!

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Again, nobody was saying these things when he was being called the favorite since the fight was signed. Now, he’s a face first brawler because Valdez stepped up and beat him. Don’t try to diminish what Valdez did and hype up Shakur like he’s beaten anyone worth a damn.

whatever ret@rd. You’re clearly too ****** to grasp the reasons why berchelt was a favorite vs Valdez, why Valdez was still able to be successful and how that approach doesn’t necessarily translate into a fight with Stevenson based on the significant difference in styles. Having this conversation with you is like trying to teach a ret@rd algebra and no longer worth it time.

[Jab jab boom]

Valdez doesn’t need a miracle to beat Stevenson lol... who the phuck had Stevenson beat so that valdez would need a miracle to beat him??? Stop it jab

ok, let’s pretend for a minute that you’re not a completely biased Mexican and actually a boxing fan. If you were, you’d know that styles make fights and just because Reynoso came up with a good plan yesterday to beat Berchelt, it doesn’t mean he’d be as successful in creating a plan for Valdez to beat Stevenson. I know you always go for the “who has he beat” argument but again, if you know boxing, you can tell that Stevenson is legit and the approach that Valdez took yesterday to effectively counter a fighter who constantly comes forward punching with minimal defense, won’t be as effective against a southpaw with a good jab who also uses the ring effectively. Since Canelo is your guy, let’s make this comparison, it would’ve been like comparing how Canelo did vs Angulo to how Canelo did vs Lara in his very next fight. Night and day styles and approaches. Canelo looked great in one of those fights and not so great in the next. Similar comparison to what I made in this thread with Morales beating a prime Pac but then losing to Zahir Raheem in his very next fight. True or false?

[Vasyl’s dad]

whatever ret@rd. You’re clearly too ****** to grasp the reasons why berchelt was a favorite vs Valdez, why Valdez was still able to be successful and how that approach doesn’t necessarily translate into a fight with Stevenson based on the significant difference in styles. Having this conversation with you is like trying to teach a ret@rd algebra and no longer worth it time.

Had to get it in with insults. Classy. I still don’t see where anyone was calling Berchelt a limited brawler before he got knocked out.

[Shadoww702]

ok, let’s pretend for a minute that you’re not a completely biased Mexican and actually a boxing fan. If you were, you’d know that styles make fights and just because Reynoso came up with a good plan yesterday to beat Berchelt, it doesn’t mean he’d be as successful in creating a plan for Valdez to beat Stevenson. I know you always go for the “who has he beat” argument but again, if you know boxing, you can tell that Stevenson is legit and the approach that Valdez took yesterday to effectively counter a fighter who constantly comes forward punching with minimal defense, won’t be as effective against a southpaw with a good jab who also uses the ring effectively. Since Canelo is your guy, let’s make this comparison, it would’ve been like comparing how Canelo did vs Angulo to how Canelo did vs Lara in his very next fight. Night and day styles and approaches. Canelo looked great in one of those fights and not so great in the next. Similar comparison to what I made in this thread with Morales beating a prime Pac but then losing to Zahir Raheem in his very next fight. True or false?

Man Stevenson sparring 16 year old BOYS and they say he hits like a girl!

He WONT KO Valdez and you can bet the farm on that. And he won't KO any real challenge bet that!!!

[Robi13]

He beat his girlfriends brother! Shakur deserves 12 million and is the next ppv star! He called out Valdez!!

Lol ok you right my bad

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Man Stevenson sparring 16 year old BOYS and they say he hits like a girl!

He WONT KO Valdez and you can bet the farm on that. And he won't KO any real challenge bet that!!!

who said anything about ko??! You’re the only one who keeps bringing that up. Did Zahir Raheem punch hard? Dude had a 53% ko percentage and he beat Morales. How many people said Floyd couldn’t punch above 140 yet still didn’t take an L at welterweight or jmw. With Stevenson, he’s only 23 and has had 4 stoppage wins in his last 7 fights. Let’s not go overboard and pretend he’s Paulie Malignaggi. Is it really that hard for you guys to admit that stylistically Stevenson might pose a threat to Valdez? It’s like some of you fans just want to hear that Valdez will walk right through him with ease, and I don’t see that happening.

[Robi13]

ok, let’s pretend for a minute that you’re not a completely biased Mexican and actually a boxing fan. If you were, you’d know that styles make fights and just because Reynoso came up with a good plan yesterday to beat Berchelt, it doesn’t mean he’d be as successful in creating a plan for Valdez to beat Stevenson. I know you always go for the “who has he beat” argument but again, if you know boxing, you can tell that Stevenson is legit and the approach that Valdez took yesterday to effectively counter a fighter who constantly comes forward punching with minimal defense, won’t be as effective against a southpaw with a good jab who also uses the ring effectively. Since Canelo is your guy, let’s make this comparison, it would’ve been like comparing how Canelo did vs Angulo to how Canelo did vs Lara in his very next fight. Night and day styles and approaches. Canelo looked great in one of those fights and not so great in the next. Similar comparison to what I made in this thread with Morales beating a prime Pac but then losing to Zahir Raheem in his very next fight. True or false?

That’s true but canelo won against both perro and Lara true or false? And we both know valdez doesn’t need a miracle to adjust his game Plan from berchelt to shakur and come out Victorious true or false?

[Vasyl’s dad]

Lol ok you right my bad

Seriously though, these new age cats think that they deserve to face the guys that have put in work for a decade just because they beat 15 bums in a row. Valdez would smash Shakur. Valdez has fought through a broken jaw. Fought on the biggest stage. I’d say Shakur would have a case if he had at least 20 wins with some of those coming against higher tier opponents. But who the hell has this guy beaten to even be considered an opponent much less the victor against a two division, undefeated veteran who has been putting in work for nearly a decade? These same dudes will tell you that Fernando Vargas career was cut short because they put him in with the big dogs too early. But Shakur Stevenson deserves a fight? Incredibly ridiculous.

[Shadoww702]

who said anything about ko??! You’re the only one who keeps bringing that up. Did Zahir Raheem punch hard? Dude had a 53% ko percentage and he beat Morales. How many people said Floyd couldn’t punch above 140 yet still didn’t take an L at welterweight or jmw. With Stevenson, he’s only 23 and has had 4 stoppage wins in his last 7 fights. Let’s not go overboard and pretend he’s Paulie Malignaggi. Is it really that hard for you guys to admit that stylistically Stevenson might pose a threat to Valdez? It’s like some of you fans just want to hear that Valdez will walk right through him with ease, and I don’t see that happening.

Shakur move up to LW he gonna get an L.

I would take Tank, Leo, and Russell Jr over him.

I LOVE to see pillow fists keep LW's like Teo off him.

Loma, Haney, and R. Garcia beats him.