Which was the better win? Mayweather over Canelo or Teofimo over Lomachenko?

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #31
    Originally posted by Floyd is TBE
    Canelo. We're forgetting Loma had already gotten has ass kicked by Salido. Loma's best win is who? Never in the history of the sport can I remember a fighter being so highly regarded despite accomplishing so little.

    I mean, people are trying to discredit Floyd dominating Canelo by calling him green, but Teo had far less experience. What does Loma being shut out by a green kid say about him?
    Although I’m not as upset about Loma being highly regarded, I agree with everything else in this post.

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      #32
      Originally posted by LeOoze
      nobody gives a **** about the olympics when you are a pro. do people remember SRL because of his olympic background? or is it because he knocked out an undefeated Hearns, made Duran say No Mas, jumped 2 weight classes to get a decision over Hagler? Tell me Loma's best win as a pro?
      Yes Olympic pedigree is important in evaluating the career of a boxer.

      SRL is one of the top 5 boxers ever probably lol. Pretty high praise comparing Loma to him.

      On paper his best win is over Rigo. His overall performance at 130 would compare to anyone all-time in a mythical matchup. If that upsets you, cry about it.

      You're the same guy who said Canelo dictated the weight clause to Floyd in that fight though. I don't expect you to have any rationality. Keep being a fanboy bro.

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        #33
        Originally posted by LeOoze
        So that's his best win? A guy who had to jump 2 weight classes to fight him?
        So now weight clauses/what weight the fight is held at, matters? But for Floyd they don't? lololololol

        We've got some pathetic 'men' on this site. Wish I could see some of y'all in real life just to laugh my ass off at you scrubs.

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        • daggum
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          #34
          Originally posted by Floyd is TBE
          Canelo. We're forgetting Loma had already gotten has ass kicked by Salido. Loma's best win is who?[/B] [B]Never in the history of the sport can I remember a fighter being so highly regarded despite accomplishing so little.

          [B]I mean, people are trying to discredit Floyd dominating Canelo by calling him green, but Teo had far less experience. [/B]What does Loma being shut out by a green kid say about him?
          when was he shut out? it was a close fight that lopez deservedly won. do you think we didnt see the fight or whats going on here? why say something so wrong? credibility is something that you should aim to have and with comments like that you arent going to get it except from floyd sycophants.

          teo had already beaten the #2 guy in the division along with nakatani who is now in the top 10. canelo beat the #3 guy and a couple old washed up guys so i dont know how he had far less experience.

          also loma had a far better resume than canelo when floyd fought him and if you would please tell me all the accomplishments canelo has at 152 which is where they fought that would be great.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Boxing-1013
            Yes Olympic pedigree is important in evaluating the career of a boxer.

            SRL is one of the top 5 boxers ever probably lol. Pretty high praise comparing Loma to him.

            On paper his best win is over Rigo. His overall performance at 130 would compare to anyone all-time in a mythical matchup. If that upsets you, cry about it.

            You're the same guy who said Canelo dictated the weight clause to Floyd in that fight though. I don't expect you to have any rationality. Keep being a fanboy bro.
            I brought up SRL because he was the first one to mind who had great olympic pedigree and a great professional career. There are plenty of others who have both.

            If on paper his best win is over Rigo, you can't say that his performance at 130 would compare to anyone all-time in a mythical matchup. Rigo was severely undersized.

            On the other hand, Canelo had a massive weight advantage and was younger than the 36 year old floyd who never fought above 150 in his life.

            Oh and Oscar confirmed that Canelo asked for the catchweight lol

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              #36
              Originally posted by Boxing-1013
              So now weight clauses/what weight the fight is held at, matters? But for Floyd they don't? lololololol

              We've got some pathetic 'men' on this site. Wish I could see some of y'all in real life just to laugh my ass off at you scrubs.
              2 154 pound champs fighting at 152 doesnt matter at all! these were the catch weight haters for years and years and years...until floyd did it, and he did it much worse since they were both champs in the same division. something that pac never did. credibility...they have none

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                #37
                Originally posted by LeOoze
                I brought up SRL because he was the first one to mind who had great olympic pedigree and a great professional career. There are plenty of others who have both.

                If on paper his best win is over Rigo, you can't say that his performance at 130 would compare to anyone all-time in a mythical matchup. Rigo was severely undersized.

                On the other hand, Canelo had a massive weight advantage and was younger than the 36 year old floyd who never fought above 150 in his life.

                Oh and Oscar confirmed that Canelo asked for the catchweight lol

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm6S...e_gdataplayers
                wow this is pretty sleazy stuff. canelo agreed to the catchweight becase floyd wanted to fight him at 147. why would he want to drain himself to 152 when he could barely make 154? that makes no sense.

                "when the (fight) negotiations started, they wanted me to go to 147. I said that's physically impossible. I couldn't do it. Then they inched up to 150. I said I can't do it, that's impossible. Those days are over. I can't make that weight anymore, I've grown.

                "Then they went up to 151. And then finally, so we could make the fight, I said, 'If anything, I'll give up two pounds.

                "They said we were idiots, we were ******, that we were the ones that wanted the catchweight."

                also a guy moving up in weight in a lot of cases will be much better than a guy draining himself down in weight. historically that has not worked out too well while historically many guys have had success going up in weight. you can make an argument dropping 2 poundds is no big deal but then again if it was so easy why couldnt floyd do it against marquez?
                Last edited by daggum; 02-17-2021, 05:33 PM.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by LeOoze
                  I brought up SRL because he was the first one to mind who had great olympic pedigree and a great professional career. There are plenty of others who have both.

                  If on paper his best win is over Rigo, you can't say that his performance at 130 would compare to anyone all-time in a mythical matchup. Rigo was severely undersized.

                  On the other hand, Canelo had a massive weight advantage and was younger than the 36 year old floyd who never fought above 150 in his life.

                  Oh and Oscar confirmed that Canelo asked for the catchweight lol

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm6S...e_gdataplayers
                  Are you really that dumb man or are you trolling..are you really trying to say that Canelo dictated terms of the fight to Floyd. Think about that for 5 seconds.

                  And in the video you posted, you just dunked on yourself - it is obvious what Oscar said - he said that Canelo couldn't go any lower than 152, and that at 152 pounds, Canelo would take the fight. Basically that video is an admission that Floyd drained Canelo as much as he could. Nice work.

                  Loma had other very impressive wins at 130. His body of work there was very impressive. At 135 he is just a good guy in his era. At 130 he looked special to many.

                  He is a great boxer. So is Floyd. Both can be critiqued as well. This thread wasn't even a direct comparison between the 2, but Floyd fans getting all upset over all of this is illuminating, if not sad.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    2 154 pound champs fighting at 152 doesnt matter at all! these were the catch weight haters for years and years and years...until floyd did it, and he did it much worse since they were both champs in the same division. something that pac never did. credibility...they have none
                    There is hypocrisy all over this site. I will say that Pac has turned into Mini Floyd with his fight selections overall, but I can't be mad at him for that. Just the way it is. Pac has certainly had his share of catchweights and selective matchups as well. He, just like Floyd though, is still a great fighter.

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                      #40
                      I don't even count Floyd over a weight drained Canelo as a good win.

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