Comments Thread For: Hearn: Lara's KO Of Warrington 'Much Bigger Shock' Than Ruiz's Upset Of Joshua

[ShoulderRoll]

Anthony Joshua was a world heavyweight champion trying to make a splashy American debut at Madison Square Garden.

The flop of that night was much more shocking, on an epic scale.

[Tecnoworld]

Anthony Joshua was a world heavyweight champion trying to make a splashy American debut at Madison Square Garden.

The flop of that night was much more shocking, on an epic scale.

Just because AJ was (and is again) over hyped. He is a Frank Bruno with worse technique.

[Bronx2245]

I tend to agree with you. Joshua was world class. The top money maker in the premier division of boxing. He held the same titles as Ali, Holmes, Tyson, and Lewis. It was his American coming out party with a replacement fighter who had just fought a few months prior. Those of us on this site and other boxing fans knew Ruiz and said at the time he was a real boxer who had the punchers chance, but to the rest of the world and here in America it was a shocking, lead the sports talk shows upset.

This is a major story here and among Warrington's fans. And while I get Eddie's point and do not disagree with it on paper, in reality it does not measure up to what Ruiz did.

Imagine if Warrington had been beaten like that in front of 20.000 people?

[Catch n shoot]

You aren't going to live that down Edster lol aj gets KOd by Ruiz then fury and Wilder fought to determine the divisional best lol clever wordplay right there.
Match joshua with one of them already!! Making it look like joshua ducking

[Corelone]

And who didn't like Pulev vs Whyte? If that wasn't the biggest shock, it was a nice zap.

[Monty Fisto]

Anthony Joshua was a world heavyweight champion trying to make a splashy American debut at Madison Square Garden.

The flop of that night was much more shocking, on an epic scale.

What you're saying is absolutely true, but the size of the humiliation/flop isn't what Hearn appears to be commenting on, at least as I'm reading it. I think in terms of the disparity between what we thought the level of the two fighters were going into the fight, the Warrington loss is the bigger surprise. This was supposed to be a tune-up, nothing more.

Joshua was trying to impress at MSG as you rightly say -- and they tried to get someone who had some measure of being a live dog. They ended up getting more than they'd bargained on in that regard...

So, Joshua's fight was higher profile and therefore the scale of the upset bigger in terms of exposure, But Warrington being in that kind of shape in the 4th to a complete unknown who hadn't fought at that level before... I can see why Hearn might think it more of a surprise outcome.

So, yes, Joshua loss a bigger shock in terms of sending bigger shockwaves. Warrington possibly more of a surprise just because of how Lara was viewed before the fight, I'd say.

[springfiels]

And who didn't like Pulev vs Whyte? If that wasn't the biggest shock, it was a nice zap.

They've never fought.

[Corelone]

They've never fought.

I meant Povetkin. Oh well, next time.

[Ray*]

No one gave Lara a chance, the people that actually knew boxing gave Ruiz a chance, Lara was fighting away from home, Ruiz was fighting in his country, Lara has never fought at this level before, Ruiz had. Josh was meant to be looking at Can and Russell, AJ was begging Wilder and looking at Fury.

So this is definitely a bigger upset in terms of boxing, especially because it was a lower weight fight. Usually you know one punch can change most things at HW.

[OnlytheTruth]

Not even ****ing close

Joshua debutted with fan fair. Joshua's meant to be the greatest boxer in the past 30 years since before he even fought Martin.

Martin called out Joshua specifically because Joshua got so much press without actually having done anything on the world stage.

Warrington is just a kid who did well and got upset in his career. There's tons of that in boxing all the time. Joshua was made to be special from the beginning and when he lost to an out of shape fat man who had already lost to a man he beat pretty easily that was shocking even for Joshua haters who claimed Ruiz was going to win. No one thought Ruiz would destroy Joshua and the excitement from those whose trolling worked out lets you know how much they really believed in the possibility.

Buster is the only thing close in boxing history I know of.


Edit - Rexy don't count. He's legit, but like he said, maybe 3 posters here were legit on Ruiz's side....no one

Not sure where you formulated that he was supposed to be the best boxer in 30 years. I think you are the only person to ever say that, in jest or not.

Bit of a pointless exercise to call him out though. Joshua barely broke a sweat with Martin. Now suddenly Martin is in the same conversation as Wilder.

Warrington suffering a shock loss at feather to a heavy handed Lara is just as shocking as Joshua losing to Ruiz due to the HW division punchers chance probability.

What I don't like about your post is that you are kind of saying that up-and-comers, who have been marketed amazingly well, can't suffer shock losses. That's 100% ridiculous. You're in the realms of 'a boxer cannot win a fight unless its a hospitalising knockout, just because its not entertaining'.