Teofimo Lopez Possibly Fighting On Another Network Next Fight?

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  • KTFOKING
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    #31
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
    You missed the more importantly part of what I said I think.

    I think we know boxing ain't pro wrasslin, but it's not exactly pro football either. There is more marketing, games & spin going on in boxing. Fans take things boxers say as biblical. They are in a extreme capitalist sphere & are trying to boost their value. Boxers are gonna say ANYTHING in some cases that garners them more attention. More attention gets them more money. That's the game at the level Teo is out. Winning fights is one part. Selling oneself is another part. And getting what you are worth is a whole other part. There is so much more in play than fans wanna talk about for the boxers or anyone with skin in the game.



    Again idk how this keeps getting spun into a negative lmfao.

    "Your fighter of the year...so what". "Your making more per fight than most guys will ever make their entire career at age 23...borrrrrrring".

    And anyone wants more. That's kinda how life is for everyone I'd argue. If you ain't got a car you want one, if you got a car you want a new car, if you got a new car you want a new better car & eventually we get into Lamborghini's & other exotic vehicles as we move up levels of wanting more til you now got the perfect car for you, but now you want a boat too.



    It's definitely more than the minimum.



    Oh I'm not saying it's easy to be clear. I just don't know if there are outs before the 3.5yrs. And if there are they may or may not be worth exploring.

    And sh^t man who knows Bob might die & TR might get sold off to someone & the whole TR rep we know today might change completely so Teo might not wanna leave in a year or three. That's all speculative obviously but with the assumption nothing changes.
    Who knows what the reason is for both of them saying they don't want the other young 135 pounders, but it has been repeated by them multiple times. Sure folks in boxing always say stuff and do the opposite but let's see how they end up moving.

    When did I say it is a bad thing that Lopez is getting paid 1.25M and won FOTY? I'm saying THIS is not what they expected after beating Lomachenko. They were assuming this was going to skyrocket them in terms of popularity and allow them to call all the shots. But the fact is that Lopez has not done numbers on any show he has headlined so it is yet to be determined if he has become a big star or not. TR sure isn't putting Lopez on the level of Crawford/Lomachenko just yet.

    I mean even if Bob passes, Todd will be running the show and he does more of the day to day operations right now as it is. A lot can happen in three or so years. I bet if Lopez proves he can draw, his minimum will go up but TR may add another year or so to his deal.

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #32
      Originally posted by KTFOKING
      Who knows what the reason is for both of them saying they don't want the other young 135 pounders, but it has been repeated by them multiple times. Sure folks in boxing always say stuff and do the opposite but let's see how they end up moving.
      But all kinds of folks say all kinds of things for all kinds of reasons is the point I'm making. I think folks, mostly fans, take words too seriously in a entertainment sphere like boxing.

      When did I say it is a bad thing that Lopez is getting paid 1.25M and won FOTY? I'm saying THIS is not what they expected after beating Lomachenko. They were assuming this was going to skyrocket them in terms of popularity and allow them to call all the shots. But the fact is that Lopez has not done numbers on any show he has headlined so it is yet to be determined if he has become a big star or not. TR sure isn't putting Lopez on the level of Crawford/Lomachenko just yet.
      I definitely feel like folks, maybe not you specifically idk, are downplaying what Teo has already done.

      I don't for a minute believe the Lopez fam thought the world was gonna turn on a dime with a Loma W. I'm sure they hoped that would happen. I'm sure they thought it was possible. And I'm sure they are of the strategy to make everyone look like a dummy cuz you don't think Teo is the greatest thing since sliced bread. And thats cuz thats been their brand the whole way. Thats how they rolled since day 1. They aren't surprised cuz they aren't as naive as most fans about how things work.

      I mean even if Bob passes, Todd will be running the show and he does more of the day to day operations right now as it is. A lot can happen in three or so years. I bet if Lopez proves he can draw, his minimum will go up but TR may add another year or so to his deal.
      Sure, but maybe Bob wants TR sold when he dies or before he dies or Todd won't wanna run TR after Bob dies. Or maybe Todd works differently with Bob not around. Or who knows was my main point with that. 3.5yrs is a long ass time. Maybe these mfers have killed each other by then or maybe they are bff's.

      And I'm 100% positive if this relationship lasts then TR will throw out a sexy fight for a sexy purse with a extension. Thats super standard. Hell thats how Teo is in the situation now. He'd NEVER had gotten to fight Loma without an extension.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        But all kinds of folks say all kinds of things for all kinds of reasons is the point I'm making. I think folks, mostly fans, take words too seriously in a entertainment sphere like boxing.

        I definitely feel like folks, maybe not you specifically idk, are downplaying what Teo has already done.

        I don't for a minute believe the Lopez fam thought the world was gonna turn on a dime with a Loma W. I'm sure they hoped that would happen. I'm sure they thought it was possible. And I'm sure they are of the strategy to make everyone look like a dummy cuz you don't think Teo is the greatest thing since sliced bread. And thats cuz thats been their brand the whole way. Thats how they rolled since day 1. They aren't surprised cuz they aren't as naive as most fans about how things work.

        Sure, but maybe Bob wants TR sold when he dies or before he dies or Todd won't wanna run TR after Bob dies. Or maybe Todd works differently with Bob not around. Or who knows was my main point with that. 3.5yrs is a long ass time. Maybe these mfers have killed each other by then or maybe they are bff's.

        And I'm 100% positive if this relationship lasts then TR will throw out a sexy fight for a sexy purse with a extension. Thats super standard. Hell thats how Teo is in the situation now. He'd NEVER had gotten to fight Loma without an extension.
        Definitely, that's why I said we will see how they end up moving.

        There is no need to downplay what Teo has done. He has back to back wins over Commey and Lomachenko. I'm a big fan of his and was backing him to Lomachenko damn near 18 months ago. He's awesome. But I definitely think they felt beating Lomachenko would make him into a PPV fighter. His dad kept saying that TR is waiting for the next million buys PPV fighter and that is his son. And who knows, maybe he does get there one day, but right now he's going to have to settle for whatever he's making. If he gets a fight against the winner of Taylor/Ramirez? Or against Tank or Garcia? Then he would definitely make more than 1.25M. We are likely to hear a bunch of public displeasure from them in the next few years but they will still fight for TR and eventually come up with a compromise that makes them happy enough.

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          #34
          Originally posted by millcitymauler
          I was thinking the same thing. Two Words: Mikey Garcia
          Exactly. Mikey was a top p4p fighter and lost years off his career suing tr.. a case he won but at what cost

          Originally posted by _original_
          Fighters just don't learn that Top Rank, sooner or later, is going to screw you over. It's hard to even feel bad for these guys now, if you don't learn from history you're destined to repeat it.
          Yea. I dont understand why people seem to think top rank is better than the other companies.. they are the oldest and shadiest

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