Got to work your way up kid. He's only 16-0.
Teofimo Lopez Possibly Fighting On Another Network Next Fight?
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I don't doubt he has a good manager but his dad literally said a few days ago that wins over Haney/Tank do NOTHING for them.I highly doubt the Lopez fam thought the doors to the safe with all the gold in it would open immediately upon a Loma W.
I mean this is still TR. TR didn't open the safe for any of their previous big names for awhile past when they deserved it & I'm not sure they ever opened it very often for non-in house fights.
I don't think the Lopez fam are that naive & I know his manager David McWater isn't. I do think they are from the same Speak It Believe It Receive It family Deontay & others are on. Thus they are going to openly speak what they believe they should receive.
Trust me, they thought the Lomachenko win was going to take them to a whole another level. And while it did to some extent, just not the extent they were anticipating. And they should have known when they signed that extension, they were going to be at the mercy of Arum and TR. When you have 3.5 years left on a deal, you aren't going to be able to take things publicly nor are you going to be able to hold out to get what you want.
Arum also knows it is highly unlikely another network/promoter bid for his fight vs Kambosos knowing it isn't a huge fight and Lopez will be returning to TR right afterwards.Comment
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Let me get this straight. So NSB can clearly hear...Looks like he is having disputes on his purse as TR is offering the minimum of $1.25M and team Lopez wants more than that.
Here is the issue. He signed an extension to fight Lomachenko and is under contract for 3.5 more years.
Teofimo Lopez, Top Rank disagree on money for first title defense — and ESPN may pay the priceTeofimo Lopez, one of the rising stars in boxing, typically fights on ESPN. A financial issue with Top Rank may end that for his next bout.
He really lost his leverage with the extension and I doubt any other network will put a serious bid for the fight. Why would they? Lopez hasn't proven to be a star just yet and he will go right back to ESPN like Arum stated.
Lopez feels he took the risk of fighting the P4P great as a green fighter and thought it would make him big money afterwards, but that's not the case. Lomachenko and Crawford have 3M+ guarantees and Lopez is likely looking for that...But he signed his extension to get Lomachenko and now he really can't do nothing about it.
By this you're saying that Teofimo Lopez, the lineal champion, the guy who holds everything except the true WBC...the guy who beat Lomachenko and shot to the top of the division ranks...
His promoter will ONLY pay him $250k more than they're offering Shawn Porter to fight Crawford?
Yet they'll throw money at Tyson Fury.
Interesting...sounds like Arum agrees with Chisora and Tyson - heavyweights are back thenComment
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I can see DAZN bidding for his services...Looks like he is having disputes on his purse as TR is offering the minimum of $1.25M and team Lopez wants more than that.
Here is the issue. He signed an extension to fight Lomachenko and is under contract for 3.5 more years.
Teofimo Lopez, Top Rank disagree on money for first title defense — and ESPN may pay the priceTeofimo Lopez, one of the rising stars in boxing, typically fights on ESPN. A financial issue with Top Rank may end that for his next bout.
He really lost his leverage with the extension and I doubt any other network will put a serious bid for the fight. Why would they? Lopez hasn't proven to be a star just yet and he will go right back to ESPN like Arum stated.
Lopez feels he took the risk of fighting the P4P great as a green fighter and thought it would make him big money afterwards, but that's not the case. Lomachenko and Crawford have 3M+ guarantees and Lopez is likely looking for that...But he signed his extension to get Lomachenko and now he really can't do nothing about it.Comment
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Come on man we ain't quoting Teo Sr for logical takes now are we? This mofo been saying crazy sh^t since day 1. We expecting reasonable takes from him now?????
And more importantly I think fans can't see the forest for the trees with what boxers & their teams say publicly. I think there are games within games being played with what folks say publicly. Bob is the king of that sh^t in fact. Others are playing that game too.
I don't understand anyone saying it didn't take him to another level. Guy was fighter of the year ffs. And like I've said over n over how many 23 year olds without an Olympic medal have had $1M per fight minimums??? And I'm not talking currently I mean historically. It's not a lot of them is all I know.Trust me, they thought the Lomachenko win was going to take them to a whole another level. And while it did to some extent, just not the extent they were anticipating.
And no doubt a boxer is likely expecting more, but fook these guys been through enough previous to this situation to know your hope & the reality almost always has a nice gap between them.
Sure, but they aren't without leverage. I guarantee you that's why Loma is getting dismissed so casually. I have zero doubt if the right number came up they'd fight him without a second thought. But currently that's one realm where they got leverage so they are using it. All boxers got some leverage. It's usually just a question of if it's worth using, if the juice is worth the squeeze. In Teo's case it is although he needn't go too hard or else he could find himself Mikey'd, in Bud's case it's not...or at least not yet.And they should have known when they signed that extension, they were going to be at the mercy of Arum and TR. When you have 3.5 years left on a deal, you aren't going to be able to take things publicly nor are you going to be able to hold out to get what you want.
Again sure, but this is just one fight. Teo might take a few L's to TR before he can get into a better position.Arum also knows it is highly unlikely another network/promoter bid for his fight vs Kambosos knowing it isn't a huge fight and Lopez will be returning to TR right afterwards.
They are already being smart in the slow climb to independence by starting a promotion. That should get more money coming their way & helps insure Teo is setup well when he gets an out or he's 26, 27 & the deal ends. Hell he should even prepare a break towards the end of the deal cuz it's a solid bet in his last year or so he won't get a fight offer that doesn't include an extension cuz that's the standard promoter hustle.Comment
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I mean if you don't want to take Sr's word, Jr has said similar things.Come on man we ain't quoting Teo Sr for logical takes now are we? This mofo been saying crazy sh^t since day 1. We expecting reasonable takes from him now?????
And more importantly I think fans can't see the forest for the trees with what boxers & their teams say publicly. I think there are games within games being played with what folks say publicly. Bob is the king of that sh^t in fact. Others are playing that game too.
I don't understand anyone saying it didn't take him to another level. Guy was fighter of the year ffs. And like I've said over n over how many 23 year olds without an Olympic medal have had $1M per fight minimums??? And I'm not talking currently I mean historically. It's not a lot of them is all I know.
And no doubt a boxer is likely expecting more, but fook these guys been through enough previous to this situation to know your hope & the reality almost always has a nice gap between them.
Sure, but they aren't without leverage. I guarantee you that's why Loma is getting dismissed so casually. I have zero doubt if the right number came up they'd fight him without a second thought. But currently that's one realm where they got leverage so they are using it. All boxers got some leverage. It's usually just a question of if it's worth using, if the juice is worth the squeeze. In Teo's case it is although he needn't go too hard or else he could find himself Mikey'd, in Bud's case it's not...or at least not yet.
Again sure, but this is just one fight. Teo might take a few L's to TR before he can get into a better position.
They are already being smart in the slow climb to independence by starting a promotion. That should get more money coming their way & helps insure Teo is setup well when he gets an out or he's 26, 27 & the deal ends. Hell he should even prepare a break towards the end of the deal cuz it's a solid bet in his last year or so he won't get a fight offer that doesn't include an extension cuz that's the standard promoter hustle.
Getting FOTY and become a superstar are two different things. I agree, getting 1.25M at his age isn't bad at all. But clearly they are expecting far more than that.
They may or may not fight Lomachenko again and I'm fine with either decision. And sure, there could be a number for them to give Lomachenko a rematch. Surely it will have to be significantly more than 1.25M.
It depends, as Mikey explained, it is not that easy getting out of that TR deal. They put extensions on fighters for certain fights and for certain amount of title fights. If Lopez can be free at the age of 26 or 27? Great, and more power to him.Comment
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You missed the more importantly part of what I said I think.
I think we know boxing ain't pro wrasslin, but it's not exactly pro football either. There is more marketing, games & spin going on in boxing. Fans take things boxers say as biblical. They are in a extreme capitalist sphere & are trying to boost their value. Boxers are gonna say ANYTHING in some cases that garners them more attention. More attention gets them more money. That's the game at the level Teo is out. Winning fights is one part. Selling oneself is another part. And getting what you are worth is a whole other part. There is so much more in play than fans wanna talk about for the boxers or anyone with skin in the game.
Again idk how this keeps getting spun into a negative lmfao.Getting FOTY and become a superstar are two different things. I agree, getting 1.25M at his age isn't bad at all. But clearly they are expecting far more than that.
"Your fighter of the year...so what". "Your making more per fight than most guys will ever make their entire career at age 23...borrrrrrring".
And anyone wants more. That's kinda how life is for everyone I'd argue. If you ain't got a car you want one, if you got a car you want a new car, if you got a new car you want a new better car & eventually we get into Lamborghini's & other exotic vehicles as we move up levels of wanting more til you now got the perfect car for you, but now you want a boat too.
It's definitely more than the minimum.They may or may not fight Lomachenko again and I'm fine with either decision. And sure, there could be a number for them to give Lomachenko a rematch. Surely it will have to be significantly more than 1.25M.
Oh I'm not saying it's easy to be clear. I just don't know if there are outs before the 3.5yrs. And if there are they may or may not be worth exploring.It depends, as Mikey explained, it is not that easy getting out of that TR deal. They put extensions on fighters for certain fights and for certain amount of title fights. If Lopez can be free at the age of 26 or 27? Great, and more power to him.
And sh^t man who knows Bob might die & TR might get sold off to someone & the whole TR rep we know today might change completely so Teo might not wanna leave in a year or three. That's all speculative obviously but with the assumption nothing changes.Comment
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