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  • NachoMan
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    #31
    Originally posted by Eastlos
    C’mon, the only person holding this fight up is Porter. Vergil is willing to get in the ring w/t the best of them, is the other guys that want no part of him. The reason Shawn gave for not giving Vergil a shot is b/c he didn’t get one either when he was coming up, LOL. What type of garbage is that? People, need to start calling out these PBC fighters for ducking any non PBC welterweights it’s embarrassing.

    https://*************/watch?v=3AiKmG_7aFI
    Stylewise, I actually think Vergil does better against Spence than Porter.

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    • NCBoxingPro
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      #32
      Ortiz is nice I won't lie. But he does not beat Ennis. That Jab of Ennis is a game changer. We'll never see it because we all know how Golden Boy protects their fighters. Please don't say Ryan Garcia, because he was expected to win against Luke Campbell.

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      • NCBoxingPro
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        #33
        Originally posted by Liondw
        Ortiz is very dynamic, and he probably beats Ennis. Does he beat Spence and Crawford, I'm not sure, but I think Crawford is the tougher opponent.
        Ortiz is nice I won't lie. But he does not beat Ennis. Stylistically that is a bad fight for him. That Jab of Ennis is a game changer. We'll never see it because we all know how Golden Boy protects their fighters. Please don't say Ryan Garcia, because he was expected to win against Luke Campbell.

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        • DClefthook
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          #34
          Originally posted by NCBoxingPro
          Ortiz is nice I won't lie. But he does not beat Ennis. That Jab of Ennis is a game changer. We'll never see it because we all know how Golden Boy protects their fighters. Please don't say Ryan Garcia, because he was expected to win against Luke Campbell.
          Ortiz will be the most famous superstar fighter that no one ever heard of because he fights on DAZASTER. Boots Ennis will be the dog shyte out of Ortiz because no fighter with a rock-em-sock-em style of fighting rarely ever has had any success against pure top boxers. He will never be able to lay a glove on Ennis, TC, Spence, Thurman, Porter, Garcia or any of the WWs. As long as Oscar keeps him on DAZN fighting top 200 Mexican cabdrivers he will never get the experience needed to have success against those guys. And don't say Hooker is going to be that guy because Hooker is built like he should be fighting at 118. Oscar knows this because to his credit he took that route. Oscar fought everyone anytime anyplace no matter their style and that's why he's one of the all-time greats but he didn't have a lot of success when he fought the top boxers like Mayweather, Paq, Hopkins, Mosely and Trinadad. Most say he even lost to Whitaker and Quartey. And before you say I'm being bias because he's Mexican no I'm not I just call it how it is. Just like I posted before that if Spence jumps up 2 or 3 weight classes to fight Canelo without any experience at that weight he's going to get his face beat in! Just call it how it is!

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            #35
            Originally posted by SimpleTouchee
            I don't get why people acting like he's going to be the next Tommy Hearns at welterweight
            I have seen absolutely nobody hype him up to that extent. Idk what your on about

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            • tokon
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              #36
              Originally posted by Rip Chudd
              I have no problems with guys telling him to pay his dues before stepping in the ring. Nobody is calling for those fights and his team hasn't sent any offers to any of those guys. Let me know when they turn down a legit offer, then we can talk about ducking. Until then he is a contender trying to prove he is championship level. I like him but the gassing by people on this site is crazy.
              Yes, you're right there; if GBP so confident in him I'm sure Oscar will have no hesitation putting out some big $$$ for one of those guys that are ducking him.

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                #37
                Just because the words came from Oscar, it looks like he's trying to find a new name to hype and make $ since he lost Canelo and will be loosing KingRy soon.

                Anyways, Ortiz is no joke. He should try Crawford since none of the top WW are ready to risk a possible bigger payday vs Manny by fighting Budd.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Since1976
                  Just because the words came from Oscar, it looks like he's trying to find a new name to hype and make $ since he lost Canelo and will be loosing KingRy soon.

                  Anyways, Ortiz is no joke. He should try Crawford since none of the top WW are ready to risk a possible bigger payday vs Manny by fighting Budd.
                  100% truth in this comment

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                  • Sosay
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                    #39
                    I like V.Ortiz a lot but this is just a promoter talking. Let him fight a few guys who can fight back before making these claims.

                    Ortiz and Ennis looks the part but needs to test themselves. Hooker is a step in the right direction but he isn't a top welter at all so we still won't know after this fight!

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                    • NCBoxingPro
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by DClefthook
                      Ortiz will be the most famous superstar fighter that no one ever heard of because he fights on DAZASTER. Boots Ennis will be the dog shyte out of Ortiz because no fighter with a rock-em-sock-em style of fighting rarely ever has had any success against pure top boxers. He will never be able to lay a glove on Ennis, TC, Spence, Thurman, Porter, Garcia or any of the WWs. As long as Oscar keeps him on DAZN fighting top 200 Mexican cabdrivers he will never get the experience needed to have success against those guys. And don't say Hooker is going to be that guy because Hooker is built like he should be fighting at 118. Oscar knows this because to his credit he took that route. Oscar fought everyone anytime anyplace no matter their style and that's why he's one of the all-time greats but he didn't have a lot of success when he fought the top boxers like Mayweather, Paq, Hopkins, Mosely and Trinadad. Most say he even lost to Whitaker and Quartey. And before you say I'm being bias because he's Mexican no I'm not I just call it how it is. Just like I posted before that if Spence jumps up 2 or 3 weight classes to fight Canelo without any experience at that weight he's going to get his face beat in! Just call it how it is!
                      I'm not a fan of Hooker. I don't rate him highly at all, and I think Ortiz beats him easily. I'm in agreement with pretty much everything else you said. I appreciate you being completely objective.

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