Ruiz vs Ortiz

[4truth]

If Ruiz shows up at 285 or even 300, he still wins it

[LA_2_Vegas]

I didn't even see the last Ortiz fight -I read it was a fiasco though and he didn't really need to do anything.


going back to the Wilder 2 fight - I just remember Wilder throwing about 3 punches until the KO and Ortiz could not create much separation during those free rounds. He won rounds but he probably did even less in the 2nd fight.

At this point given how Wilder was taken apart it leaves me wondering why the supposed technical Ortiz could make no adjustments between the 1st and 2nd fight - he got stopped both times and did even less in the 2nd fight. Ruiz also made no adjustments between fights but at least he got a W, outboxing and outslugging a better boxer than Wilder.

Ruiz outboxing and stopping AJ is better than Ortiz hardly being able to outbox, and getting stopped by a one handed fighter in Wilder. As bad as it was, Ruiz probably had more success in the 2nd fight than Ortiz did.

I know it comes down to styles anyway, so I think Ortiz will have a hard time finding the range with Ruiz getting small and pressing forward...Ortiz will not be able to leave his right arm dangling against Ruiz who has a huge left hook..he is going to be way busier. Ortiz is quality but the activity is getting pretty low

[famicommander]

If Ruiz comes in below 265, Ruiz. If he comes in above that, old man Ortiz.

[boliodogs]

I think Ruiz learned a lesson and will be thinner and in better shape from now on, He will still be fat but not nearly as fat as he has been. I think Ruiz in good condition would beat Ortiz. They are both good fighters but Ruiz is much younger and in his prime while Ortiz is 41 years old.That puts the odds in Ruiz's favor plus I think Ruiz is training harder now with a better trainer and team to help him.

[JakeTheBoxer]

This is actually the fight to make. The best game fight in division.

[boliodogs]

Ruiz looks much lighter to me in recent photos.

[boliodogs]

This is actually the fight to make. The best game fight in division.

They have to slug it out. They are both too fat to run away. It would be a good hard hitting fight, They both have surprisingly fast hands.

[JakeTheBoxer]

They have to slug it out. They are both too fat to run away. It would be a good hard hitting fight, They both have surprisingly fast hands.

There are so many good fights that can be made between Ruiz, Ortiz, Povetkin and some others. I will be really mad if these guys keep avoiding each other.

All these guys already had their opportunities on top level, so there is no reason to wait.

[GhostofDempsey]

If Andy is serious about his conditioning as he claims he is and comes into the ring like he did in the first Joshua fight or even the Parker fight, I like Ruiz in this one, and it would be an easy win.

[JakeTheBoxer]

If Andy is serious about his conditioning as he claims he is and comes into the ring like he did in the first Joshua fight or even the Parker fight, I like Ruiz in this one, and it would be an easy win.

I kinda agree, if Ruiz actually trains, he is probably the third best hw around.