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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #81
    Originally posted by Roadblock
    Im not upset in you saying Manny wins 1 out of 10 I think its a hilarious notion as rematches get easier for Floyd not harder.
    Quote where I said they get harder for Floyd.

    I’ll wait...

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      #82
      Getting served 9 out of 10 timez suggests the winner has an easy time

      Boxing doesn’t have rematches when the winner breezes through his opponent

      An underdog who could pull it off would win 1 for every 3 tries

      Guys without size who can get Floyd at least once imo: Henry Armstrong Duran and Whitaker

      manny simply doesn’t have the pressure nor defense to give Floyd a hard time

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      • Roadblock
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        #83
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
        Quote where I said they get harder for Floyd.

        I’ll wait...
        Where did I say you said it, I said it, and I said it because its a fact that lends itself to the rational thinking that by the time we got to multiple wins over the same opponent the less likely Floyd is going to lose.

        Get with the program youre trying to be smart but really a step behind.

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          #84
          Your friend forgot the part where Pacquaio needed to know when his drug test would occur and also had his promoter saying for years that an entire new stadium needed to be built, which was beyond their control and so they couldnt possibly fight when mayweather wanted to because someone had to build a new stadium in las vegas, before ultimately 5 years later just fighting at the MGM grand like they always did

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            #85
            Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
            Getting served 9 out of 10 timez suggests the winner has an easy time

            Boxing doesn’t have rematches when the winner breezes through his opponent

            An underdog who could pull it off would win 1 for every 3 tries

            Guys without size who can get Floyd at least once imo: Henry Armstrong Duran and Whitaker

            manny simply doesn’t have the pressure nor defense to give Floyd a hard time


            ******s that dont know chit about boxing see the pacquaio that unloaded and landed at will on a slow plodding margarito and expected him to do the same on floyd.

            then when pacquaio dropped his output against floyd due to the possiblity of taking rapid counters, as the statistical history shows every single floyd opponent has done for more than a decade, they act surprised and claim if both fighters were younger then this would have been different.

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              #86
              Originally posted by el***
              ******s that dont know chit about boxing see the pacquaio that unloaded and landed at will on a slow plodding margarito and expected him to do the same on floyd.

              then when pacquaio dropped his output against floyd due to the possiblity of taking rapid counters, as the statistical history shows every single floyd opponent has done for more than a decade, they act surprised and claim if both fighters were younger then this would have been different.
              Yeah manny’s thousand strikes only came out VS punching bags Clottey and margarita

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              • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                #87
                Originally posted by Roadblock
                Where did I say you said it, I said it, and I said it because its a fact that lends itself to the rational thinking that by the time we got to multiple wins over the same opponent the less likely Floyd is going to lose.

                Get with the program youre trying to be smart but really a step behind.
                So I didn’t say it. Glad we cleared that up.

                Man you’re desperate to create an issue here and the thing you have an issue with I didn’t even say. Just get a life man.

                The prospect of Mayweather losing 1 out of 10 fictional fights has you all up in your feelings. Do you realise how insecure that makes you look?

                This is possibly the most pointless discussion I’ve ever had on this forum.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by djtmal
                  Floyd did retire, or went on vacation when the division was hot for two years.
                  Its something to be said when a prime fighter 30 yrs old takes himself out of the equation when all of those guys are prime and at their most lethal beating each other up. How do you excuse that.
                  The Manny/Floyd who ducked who debate it is what it is. Everybody here pretty much knows how everybody stands on that, and there is enough information out there for anyone to research and come up with their own conclusion.
                  I don't buy the Oscar was shot excuse. Oscar, Cotto, Hatton.. Manny was up, down, in, out, left, right with a speed/power nobody seen before. He was like the Efren Reyes (legendary Philippino pool player) of boxing. straight had those guys befuddled but unlike Floyd he went in for the kill.
                  He just old fashioned lined those guys up and beat the brakes off of all of them to generate high interest. Many guys did far less than Manny and Floyd made fights quicker with like Ortiz Guerrero and Marco's Madonna they hadn't done half of what Manny was doing. But Floyd played it somewhat smart he wanted everybody to focus on Manny being a drug cheat but the truth in the ring yeah Manny had good pop but it was really about the odd angles he was coming from at the speed he was doing it from the southpaw stance. It was clear to me Floyd just wasn't confident enough in 2009 and cooked up scheme after scheme to avoid those problems. Until Manny got ko'd of course.
                  Manny/Marquez for the hardcore boxing fan that was a match made in heaven. You just always have that one guy who is a style mismatch and for Manny it was Marquez. Marquez got the ko after 4 hard tough fights good for him Manny is still 2-1-1. Marquez was willing from day one to stick his chin in there with Manny. Floyd and Marquez don't fight nothing alike. Floyd just wants easy fights where he can run potshot clinch and steal rounds.
                  At ww I can't say much about Floyd because yeah it's easy to look super great against a bunch of slow, flat footed come forward guys with no reach who the first time they get hit they in retreat mode. It's just a totally different set of circumstances when you hit a guy and he is tough enough to take the shot and fast enough to hit you back.
                  I definitely think Floyd was avoiding fire when he retired, but I still don't see any way Pacquaio beats Floyd. I think a younger Pacquaio makes it more competitive, but still loses. You say Pac had slowed down but Mayweather's legs and movement hasn't been the same since he stepped foot at welter. You also say Pacquaio was "up and down" way more before Marquez stopped him. That's because those fighters were either stationary targets or hittable. Neither fighter had a defense or ring IQ comparable to that of Mayweather and the closest one (Marquez) knocked him out and pretty much split the series with him in all honesty. You say Floyd fought slow footed fighters, I don't see a lot of slick boxers of Mannys resume to be honest. Closest thing would be Marquez and their overall head to head record is deceptive. Most people thought Marquez won the first fight and at least one other in the series before the last fight.

                  That Floyd and Marquez fight nothing alike is true, especially because Floyd does every single thing better than he does. And If you couldn't see that Oscar was a dead man walking against Pac, I literally don't have anything else to say. He fought in a division that he hadn't fought in for about 7 years. Just look at how his body looked.

                  Can't believe I'm actually defending Floyd lol

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                    #89
                    Very simple. if floyd who's full of IV couldn't beat an injured pacquiao then it's safe to say that any version of floyd couldn't beat an injured pacquiao.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                      So I didn’t say it. Glad we cleared that up.

                      Man you’re desperate to create an issue here and the thing you have an issue with I didn’t even say. Just get a life man.

                      The prospect of Mayweather losing 1 out of 10 fictional fights has you all up in your feelings. Do you realise how insecure that makes you look?

                      This is possibly the most pointless discussion I’ve ever had on this forum.

                      You created the issue dumb ass and youre still crying even after I explained how rational it is that he is very unlikely to lose after beating an opponent multiple times .

                      If its a pointless discussion maybe you should have left it alone in the first place instead of making a dumb comment then ask me another dumb question of when you said something that I said.

                      I dont know why some Manny fans are such paranoid weidos.

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