Any version of Floyd vs same weight version of Manny.

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  • djtmal
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    #71
    Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
    Which version of Manny would be prime enough to beat Floyd? Prime Manny IMO would be at the lower weights to me. Floyd would always have a size advantage since hes bigger/taller etc.
    The version of Manny that Floyd avoided in 2009.

    The guy who developed his right hook/footwork and put it all together against, Oscar, Cotto, Hatton etc. To me Manny was at his peak then.

    The version that had Floyd shook doing videos talking about his health yes that version of Manny.

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      #72
      Originally posted by djtmal
      The version of Manny that Floyd avoided in 2009.

      The guy who developed his right hook/footwork and put it all together against, Oscar, Cotto, Hatton etc. To me Manny was at his peak then.

      The version that had Floyd shook doing videos talking about his health yes that version of Manny.
      Keep running chicken sht .

      Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports said today that he was given a copy of an 8 page bout agreement from the end of 2009 which would have ended with a March 13, 2010 superfight:

      A contract sent on Dec. 11, 2009, by Golden Boy Promotions on behalf of Mayweather to Top Rank on behalf of Pacquiao proposed a 50-50 financial split between the sides for a fight that would have been held March 13, 2010.

      The eight-page agreement is so detailed that it indicates which of the two fighters would step onto the scale first at the weigh-in (Pacquiao), who would walk to the ring first (Pacquiao), who would be introduced first (Mayweather) and who had first choice of the locker room (Mayweather).

      It detailed that the bout would have been on HBO Pay-Per-View at a cost of $59.95. Billing was to be "Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, presented by Top Rank, Golden Boy Promotions, Mayweather Promotions and M-P Promotions in association with [approved sponsors and the site]."


      Pacquiao's side declined the 2009 contract offer because Pacquiao objected to Mayweather's request for the drug testing.

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        #73
        Originally posted by Roadblock
        Keep running chicken sht .

        Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports said today that he was given a copy of an 8 page bout agreement from the end of 2009 which would have ended with a March 13, 2010 superfight:

        A contract sent on Dec. 11, 2009, by Golden Boy Promotions on behalf of Mayweather to Top Rank on behalf of Pacquiao proposed a 50-50 financial split between the sides for a fight that would have been held March 13, 2010.

        The eight-page agreement is so detailed that it indicates which of the two fighters would step onto the scale first at the weigh-in (Pacquiao), who would walk to the ring first (Pacquiao), who would be introduced first (Mayweather) and who had first choice of the locker room (Mayweather).

        It detailed that the bout would have been on HBO Pay-Per-View at a cost of $59.95. Billing was to be "Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, presented by Top Rank, Golden Boy Promotions, Mayweather Promotions and M-P Promotions in association with [approved sponsors and the site]."


        Pacquiao's side declined the 2009 contract offer because Pacquiao objected to Mayweather's request for the drug testing.
        The version of Manny that Floyd avoided in 2009.

        The guy who developed his right hook/footwork and put it all together against, Oscar, Cotto, Hatton etc. To me Manny was at his peak then.

        The version that had Floyd shook doing videos talking about his health yes that version of Manny.

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          #74
          Originally posted by djtmal
          The version of Manny that Floyd avoided in 2009.

          The guy who developed his right hook/footwork and put it all together against, Oscar, Cotto, Hatton etc. To me Manny was at his peak then.

          The version that had Floyd shook doing videos talking about his health yes that version of Manny.
          The version that refused the PED testing probably because he was on PEDS.

          Keep running chicken sht, whenever you are asked to back your mouth up you run, you are so full of BS, I thought you said Manny didmt know about the testing demand lol.

          Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports said today that he was given a copy of an 8 page bout agreement from the end of 2009 which would have ended with a March 13, 2010 superfight:

          A contract sent on Dec. 11, 2009, by Golden Boy Promotions on behalf of Mayweather to Top Rank on behalf of Pacquiao proposed a 50-50 financial split between the sides for a fight that would have been held March 13, 2010.

          The eight-page agreement is so detailed that it indicates which of the two fighters would step onto the scale first at the weigh-in (Pacquiao), who would walk to the ring first (Pacquiao), who would be introduced first (Mayweather) and who had first choice of the locker room (Mayweather).

          It detailed that the bout would have been on HBO Pay-Per-View at a cost of $59.95. Billing was to be "Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, presented by Top Rank, Golden Boy Promotions, Mayweather Promotions and M-P Promotions in association with [approved sponsors and the site]."

          Pacquiao's side declined the 2009 contract offer because Pacquiao objected to Mayweather's request for the drug testing.

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            #75
            Originally posted by djtmal
            The version of Manny that Floyd avoided in 2009.

            The guy who developed his right hook/footwork and put it all together against, Oscar, Cotto, Hatton etc. To me Manny was at his peak then.

            The version that had Floyd shook doing videos talking about his health yes that version of Manny.
            I always thought Floyd retired when the division was at its hottest. Back when Williams, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito was in their hay day etc., you can even look at my old posts because I was on this forum when it all was happening.

            Neither was in a rush to fight the other. Pac said he didn't like needles, Floyd had his own excuses as well. Even still, you can't compare a shot, weight drained De La Hoya to Floyd, same with Hatton (who was stopped by Floyd and beaten up by Collazo previously). Cotto was stopped by Margarito (illegally IMO) before Pacquaio got to him. So literally there was no one that Pac beat, that you could definitively say would be a barometer to Mayweather. I just feel like Floyd would have always been too much of a counter puncher for Pac to deal with, too fast, strong etc. Mayweather I just feel is too elusive for any version of Pac. Keep in mind that Pacquaio and Marquez fought to a draw at feather-weight. Was that Marquez better than Floyd especially at the lower weights? I doubt it.

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              #76
              PAC would’ve whooped Floyd in 08-11. Floyd ducked.

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                #77
                Originally posted by HewJohnson
                PAC would’ve whooped Floyd in 08-11. Floyd ducked.
                Yap yap yap, wheres the the proof he ducked, yap yap yap , here is the proof Manny ducked , yap yap yap .

                Fck me you yappers are pathetic , its in print and all you do is yap yap yap , you go on about Floyd not being able to read and start threads well read this moron it clearly shows why the fight didnt happen in 2010 and it all Manny saying no PED testing Im scared of needles Floyd is too big for testing its not fair , Manny yaps yaps just like his BS fans that start threads about Floyd day in and day out and they cry because I stand up for him .

                Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports said today that he was given a copy of an 8 page bout agreement from the end of 2009 which would have ended with a March 13, 2010 superfight:

                A contract sent on Dec. 11, 2009, by Golden Boy Promotions on behalf of Mayweather to Top Rank on behalf of Pacquiao proposed a 50-50 financial split between the sides for a fight that would have been held March 13, 2010.

                The eight-page agreement is so detailed that it indicates which of the two fighters would step onto the scale first at the weigh-in (Pacquiao), who would walk to the ring first (Pacquiao), who would be introduced first (Mayweather) and who had first choice of the locker room (Mayweather).

                It detailed that the bout would have been on HBO Pay-Per-View at a cost of $59.95. Billing was to be "Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, presented by Top Rank, Golden Boy Promotions, Mayweather Promotions and M-P Promotions in association with [approved sponsors and the site]."

                Pacquiao's side declined the 2009 contract offer because Pacquiao objected to Mayweather's request for the drug testing.

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                • HewJohnson
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Roadblock
                  Yap yap yap, wheres the the proof he ducked, yap yap yap , here is the proof Manny ducked , yap yap yap .

                  Fck me you yappers are pathetic , its in print and all you do is yap yap yap , you go on about Floyd not being able to read and start threads well read this moron it clearly shows why the fight didnt happen in 2010 and it all Manny saying no PED testing Im scared of needles Floyd is too big for testing its not fair , Manny yaps yaps just like his BS fans that start threads about Floyd day in and day out and they cry because I stand up for him .

                  Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports said today that he was given a copy of an 8 page bout agreement from the end of 2009 which would have ended with a March 13, 2010 superfight:

                  A contract sent on Dec. 11, 2009, by Golden Boy Promotions on behalf of Mayweather to Top Rank on behalf of Pacquiao proposed a 50-50 financial split between the sides for a fight that would have been held March 13, 2010.

                  The eight-page agreement is so detailed that it indicates which of the two fighters would step onto the scale first at the weigh-in (Pacquiao), who would walk to the ring first (Pacquiao), who would be introduced first (Mayweather) and who had first choice of the locker room (Mayweather).

                  It detailed that the bout would have been on HBO Pay-Per-View at a cost of $59.95. Billing was to be "Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, presented by Top Rank, Golden Boy Promotions, Mayweather Promotions and M-P Promotions in association with [approved sponsors and the site]."

                  Pacquiao's side declined the 2009 contract offer because Pacquiao objected to Mayweather's request for the drug testing.



                  Oh, there you are!
                  Posting about Floyd again.
                  Per usual.

                  How much does he pay you?

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by HewJohnson
                    Oh, there you are!
                    Posting about Floyd again.
                    Per usual.

                    How much does he pay you?
                    Very poor deflect seeing as you post more about him than I do .

                    Keep yapping kid youre as weak as water.

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                    • djtmal
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
                      I always thought Floyd retired when the division was at its hottest. Back when Williams, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito was in their hay day etc., you can even look at my old posts because I was on this forum when it all was happening.

                      Neither was in a rush to fight the other. Pac said he didn't like needles, Floyd had his own excuses as well. Even still, you can't compare a shot, weight drained De La Hoya to Floyd, same with Hatton (who was stopped by Floyd and beaten up by Collazo previously). Cotto was stopped by Margarito (illegally IMO) before Pacquaio got to him. So literally there was no one that Pac beat, that you could definitively say would be a barometer to Mayweather. I just feel like Floyd would have always been too much of a counter puncher for Pac to deal with, too fast, strong etc. Mayweather I just feel is too elusive for any version of Pac. Keep in mind that Pacquaio and Marquez fought to a draw at feather-weight. Was that Marquez better than Floyd especially at the lower weights? I doubt it.
                      Floyd did retire, or went on vacation when the division was hot for two years.
                      Its something to be said when a prime fighter 30 yrs old takes himself out of the equation when all of those guys are prime and at their most lethal beating each other up. How do you excuse that.
                      The Manny/Floyd who ducked who debate it is what it is. Everybody here pretty much knows how everybody stands on that, and there is enough information out there for anyone to research and come up with their own conclusion.
                      I don't buy the Oscar was shot excuse. Oscar, Cotto, Hatton.. Manny was up, down, in, out, left, right with a speed/power nobody seen before. He was like the Efren Reyes (legendary Philippino pool player) of boxing. straight had those guys befuddled but unlike Floyd he went in for the kill.
                      He just old fashioned lined those guys up and beat the brakes off of all of them to generate high interest. Many guys did far less than Manny and Floyd made fights quicker with like Ortiz Guerrero and Marco's Madonna they hadn't done half of what Manny was doing. But Floyd played it somewhat smart he wanted everybody to focus on Manny being a drug cheat but the truth in the ring yeah Manny had good pop but it was really about the odd angles he was coming from at the speed he was doing it from the southpaw stance. It was clear to me Floyd just wasn't confident enough in 2009 and cooked up scheme after scheme to avoid those problems. Until Manny got ko'd of course.
                      Manny/Marquez for the hardcore boxing fan that was a match made in heaven. You just always have that one guy who is a style mismatch and for Manny it was Marquez. Marquez got the ko after 4 hard tough fights good for him Manny is still 2-1-1. Marquez was willing from day one to stick his chin in there with Manny. Floyd and Marquez don't fight nothing alike. Floyd just wants easy fights where he can run potshot clinch and steal rounds.
                      At ww I can't say much about Floyd because yeah it's easy to look super great against a bunch of slow, flat footed come forward guys with no reach who the first time they get hit they in retreat mode. It's just a totally different set of circumstances when you hit a guy and he is tough enough to take the shot and fast enough to hit you back.
                      Last edited by djtmal; 02-06-2021, 07:56 AM.

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