Would Floyd be the GOAT if he beat GGG in 2014?

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  • blowblow
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    #21
    Originally posted by darealperfect!
    its funny how ya give pac-man all the credit in the world but he fought 7 of the same fighters Floyd fought AFTER.
    pac fought lots of prime fighters back then so those 7 common opponents was just a plus.

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    • spytactics
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      #22
      Originally posted by Roadblock
      No he didnt he agreed to all conditions, it was Manny who said no .

      Floyd had to confront him man to man to get the fight, what did Manny actively do to make the fight happen ?
      Ffs, floyd ducked manny inside the ring when they did fight.

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        #23
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn

        As for beating GGG in 2014, is that really a huge win?
        2014 GGG was a killer. Prime version of GGG. Canelo was so scared of that version of GGG that he postponed the fight 3 years waiting for GGG's decline.

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        • R-Hand Southpaw
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          #24
          Originally posted by Roadblock
          No he didnt he agreed to all conditions, it was Manny who said no .

          Floyd had to confront him man to man to get the fight, what did Manny actively do to make the fight happen ?
          Yet yall forget as much as you call Manny a PED cheat hes never been busted once.

          But submitting an application for an IV illegal used prior to the fight after the fight is over is 100% okay right? Because you guys care about "fair fights" right?

          Did I even mention that Manny sued Floyd for defamation and Floyd was forced to settle because he knows he liar and didn't want it. Quit pretending this didn't happen.

          You ask what did Pac do to get the fight? That's laugable. Dude was at worst #2 p4p and #2 at 147.

          Better question is what did Floyd, the master demander and decider of all fights do to get that fight done? Who's was the A side again?

          You wanna talk excuses? Lmfao.

          If Floyd wanted the fight in 2009 it could have happened but he didn't. Why? Because he was convinced that Pac was on PEDs and was subsequently sued and settled.

          That should be enough for you to see the truth but naaaah, let's ignore facts because your hero said so.

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          • Roadblock
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            #25
            Originally posted by R-Hand Southpaw
            Yet yall forget as much as you call Manny a PED cheat hes never been busted once.

            But submitting an application for an IV illegal used prior to the fight after the fight is over is 100% okay right? Because you guys care about "fair fights" right?

            Did I even mention that Manny sued Floyd for defamation and Floyd was forced to settle because he knows he liar and didn't want it. Quit pretending this didn't happen.

            You ask what did Pac do to get the fight? That's laugable. Dude was at worst #2 p4p and #2 at 147.

            Better question is what did Floyd, the master demander and decider of all fights do to get that fight done? Who's was the A side again?

            You wanna talk excuses? Lmfao.

            If Floyd wanted the fight in 2009 it could have happened but he didn't. Why? Because he was convinced that Pac was on PEDs and was subsequently sued and settled.

            That should be enough for you to see the truth but naaaah, let's ignore facts because your hero said so.
            The facts are Floyd agreed to all demands Manny did not , its not hard to figure and the irony is Manny forced Rios to take the same testing he refused.

            How the fck a guy agreeing to everything is ducking and the guy saying no is not ducking you are dumb if you cant see the raw part of this .

            Floyd contacted Manny personally offering him his greatest purse Manny refused, Floyd confronted him face to face and got the fight made , what did Manny actively do at any time to make the fight, sued him and listened only to Bob.

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            • F l i c k e r
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              #26
              Probably would have beat him too.

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              • Roadblock
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                #27
                Originally posted by spytactics
                Ffs, floyd ducked manny inside the ring when they did fight.
                Yep ducked weaved and schooled him and Manny couldnt do a dam thing about it, the ring is a small place with nowhere to hide you should try it at some point instead of sitting behind a PC talking it up.

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                • Eff Pandas
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                  #28
                  The "Goat" is some sci fi fantasy silliness so anyone you want to be could be Your Goat.

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                  • djtmal
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    No matter who Floyd beat, there would be people that don't like him that would denigrate his resume.

                    As for beating GGG in 2014, is that really a huge win?
                    Pre Hatton he is solid, post Hatton he did too much cherrypicking and needed too many advantages over mediocre opponents. You don't need to dislike him to keep it real on him.

                    A win on GGG when GGG was the boogeyman @ 160 Floyd absolutely would be praised, but the reality is that's like asking Floyd to take a risk.

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                    • djtmal
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Roadblock
                      The facts are Floyd agreed to all demands Manny did not , its not hard to figure and the irony is Manny forced Rios to take the same testing he refused.

                      How the fck a guy agreeing to everything is ducking and the guy saying no is not ducking you are dumb if you cant see the raw part of this .

                      Floyd contacted Manny personally offering him his greatest purse Manny refused, Floyd confronted him face to face and got the fight made , what did Manny actively do at any time to make the fight, sued him and listened only to Bob.
                      Manny agreed to everything then Floyd kept moving the goalposts let's keep it real.

                      It wasn't until Floyd's ppv numbers looked real shabby after Marco's Madonna 2 that he did what he could have done in 2009. Stop bs'ing and make the fight happen. Somebody must have lit a fire in Floyd's azz because he was stalking Manny at bball games, showing up to the family picnic, etc.

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