Chris Mannix SCHOOLS Max Kellerman About Why Canelo is #1 P4P, NOT Crawford

[Combat Talk Radio]

Chris Mannix was a Crawford shill, but he isn't anymore.

Max basically admits his P4P is based on 'eye test'.

Mannix - who I can't stand but it seems like age and wisdom have caught up to him about the business - properly says, yeah, but that's not based on equal level opposition, because Crawford hasn't fought anybody yet really know for sure.

That's exactly why resume matters.

Schooled on his own damn show about how boxing works.

[djtmal]

Isn't Canelo operating out of the Floyd cherrypicking school of boxing?

[Combat Talk Radio]

Isn't Canelo operating out of the Floyd cherrypicking school of boxing?

What we do know is that Canelo has fought more top fighters than anyone else in the game, period.

[djtmal]

What we do know is that Canelo has fought more top fighters than anyone else in the game, period.

Yeah but Floyd did that but that don't necessarily mean he fighting the best opposition. It could be name guys but past their prime.

[_Rexy_]

I'd take the opinion of Max Kellerman over Chris ****ing Mannix


And if you're gonna go on about resume, then you should also bring up the asterisks. Catchweights, Hydration Clauses, etc. Crawford has none. Inoue has none, Beterbiev has none, Bivol has none, Lomachenko has one (where he went down) Spence has none, Ioka has none, Estrada has none, Chocolatito has none...

Canelo has ten.

[Cobratu]

Mannix clowned dumbass Kellerman who has lost all credibitly with his blatant cheerleading of ESPN fighters and on top of that Max has always had a hate for Mexican fighters.

Max still thinks he’s black.

[El_Mero]

Chris Mannix was a Crawford shill, but he isn't anymore.

Max basically admits his P4P is based on 'eye test'.

Mannix - who I can't stand but it seems like age and wisdom have caught up to him about the business - properly says, yeah, but that's not based on equal level opposition, because Crawford hasn't fought anybody yet really know for sure.

That's exactly why resume matters.

Schooled on his own damn show about how boxing works.

P4P has nothing to do with resumes. Muhammad Ali summarised how many viewed SRR:
“Pound-for-pound. When they say Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest fighter pound-for-pound, meaning that if I imagine he was a Heavyweight fighting with the same style, he would be the greatest. I would have to admit, I would have to say yes."

Visualise two fighters being the same weight, and based on talent and skill which boxer would be victorious.....

[ralex]

Canelo would look like the GOAT if he faced the level of competition that Crawford faces.

Canelo fights great fighters. Crawford fights mediocre fighters l

Canelo would look ridiculously good against mediocre fighters.

[Cobratu]

Canelo would look like the GOAT if he faced the level of competition that Crawford faces.

Canelo fights great fighters. Crawford fights mediocre fighters l

Canelo would look ridiculously good against mediocre fighters.

Yup

Well said.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Yeah but Floyd did that but that don't necessarily mean he fighting the best opposition. It could be name guys but past their prime.

"At The End Of The Day", Canelo has the best resume in the game. Everything else is an excuse.

I'd take the opinion of Max Kellerman over Chris ****ing Mannix


And if you're gonna go on about resume, then you should also bring up the asterisks. Catchweights, Hydration Clauses, etc. Crawford has none.

...I'm sorry, did you just say Crawford has no asterisks?

He has nothing BUT asterisks at 147 and a few at 140 while we're at it.

Or did you forget that

- Jose Benavidez had ONE leg and still damn near took Crawford the distance (asterisk)

- Crawford faked a hand injury before the Horn fight and refused to fight him in Australia. He was caught taking pictures of the Top Rank girls with that hand, no wrap, no bandage, nothing a day later. Horn's camp asked for the doctor's note, Crawford refused. Why? Because it was fake to delay Horn's camp timing and throw him off after difficult travel overseas. (asterisk) Worse - NSB doesn't believe Horn beat Manny, so if you buy that, then (asterisk).

- Crawford got jabbed to hell by a version of Khan that was not far removed from almost getting killed by Canelo in the ring (asterisk), couldn't spark the alleged glass chin, then tossed a low blow out of frustration. (asterisk). PPV so poor they haven't done another since for him (asterisk).

- Kavaliauskas two-pieced, wobbled and dropped Crawford (asterisk).

- Brook basically won every round with nothing but a jab. A completely past it, disinterested, non-energetic version that was damaged already by Spence and Golovkin (asterisk).

Come on bro. You know better than that.

P4P has nothing to do with resumes.

Visualise two fighters being the same weight, and based on talent and skill which boxer would be victorious.....

You and Rexy are not hearing what Mannix is properly saying.

Talent and skill can only be measured against top fighters who are actually a threat to you.

Crawford has faced no such threat.

You're basing your 'eye test' against performances against bums, which is why you guys keep upping Berlanga who's sparking bums too.

You need to measure against THREATS. Canelo has faced threats, whether you agree or not, he has, definitely compared to Crawford, and he has surpassed all of them. Thus, the quality of who he's surpassed has been so much better than ANYONE Crawford has beat that there's no logic in the 'eye test' for him yet.

That's why he needs to fight someone like Porter or Keef so he can truly be evaluated.

Until then he's just another fighter looking fancy against C-levels (BoMac called them that too).