Ugas vs Thurman for WBA belt.

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  • HewJohnson
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    #21
    Originally posted by MikeyMike100
    Would be a good fight. I got Thurman winning that one, too many people have written Thurman off because of one loss
    Thurman still top WW, in his prime, big hitter.

    PAC’s C game is still better than these WW’s, that’s all.

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    • Afi23
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      #22
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
      You invented all of this in your head. Nothing you wrote is true.

      The WBA world championship and WBA super championship are two different championships. The belts don't even look the same.

      There's no such thing as a WBA regular title. That is slang people use to refer to the WBA world championship.

      But you can be WBA super champion when there is no WBA world champion and you can be WBA world champion when there is no WBA super champion. They are separate championships.
      Thank you. That's what I thought, he had me confused for a minute.


      Another thing, some people seem to think that WBA Super Champion is the equivalent of a WBC Franchise which is not, though there are some similarities.

      "The WBA presently can recognize up to four world champions in any given weight division, to a point of rendering it technically impossible under certain conditions for a WBA world champion to even hold sole recognition from the organization as its champion in a division.

      The most prominent designation is that of the WBA Super champion, which was created in 2000 following a suggestion by Lennox Lewis after he was forced to relinquish his WBA heavyweight title prior to his defense against Michael Grant. This distinction was initially reserved for WBA champions who are simultaneously recognized by the WBC, IBF or WBO. A WBA Super champion is afforded special consideration by the organization with respect to meeting mandatory defense obligations to maintain championship recognition, but it also has opened the door for the organization to recognize a separate world champion, commonly referred to as the Regular champion; creating confusion among fans as to who holds the de facto championship title. Some world champions have been upgraded to WBA Super champion status without winning another organization's title, among them Floyd Mayweather Jr., Chris John, Anselmo Moreno and Manny Pacquiao; or upon defending their WBA title five or more times.[6] Upon awarding a WBA Super championship, the regular world champion status is deemed vacant, whereupon it is filled by the organization as a separate championship. There are no WBA Super women's championships.

      The WBA further complicates this from time to time by recognizing an interim champion, ostensibly in cases where a designated world champion is, for some reason, prohibited from making a timely defense of their title. Under such conditions, the interim title holder is to be the next person to compete for one of the full championship titles once the champion is in a position to compete. In practice, however, this actually occurs rarely if ever and in 2019 the organization began awarding the WBA Gold title, for which no provision exists even within the organization's own governing documents. As of December 2019 for example, they simultaneously recognized a WBA Super champion (Anthony Joshua), WBA champion (Manuel Charr), WBA interim champion (Trevor Bryan) and WBA Gold champion (Robert Helenius) in the heavyweight division.

      There have even been instances where different WBA world champions have defended versions of the same title, in the same weight class, on the same date in different events."
      Last edited by Afi23; 02-01-2021, 12:32 AM.

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