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  • SteveM
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    #121
    Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
    I'm all for that fight getting made, both guys seem to want it but IDK what the hold up is. Making fights between promoters is tough sometimes. idk if it's Al or Eddie's fault.

    But.

    Andrade has the same promoter (for now) as canelo. Notice I didn't even mention Charlo. We all know the Andrade vs. Canelo fight can be made in a snap, the only obstacle is does canelo want it or not?
    Andrade is a high risk low reward fight. He has nothing for Canelo, Golovkin or even Charlo.

    His career could be summed up in a booked titled 'How not to manage and promote a talented boxer'.

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    • El_Maldito_Rey
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      #122
      Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
      Canelo has the money, the power, the influence, and if someone doesn't fight him we know 100 percent sure its a duck by canel, point blank period
      There's no excuse anymore for the September date. Canelo has made it no secret that this year he's going after the belts.

      He already has the WBO lined up for May. No need to cry about that one.

      IBF in September. What's Charlo's excuse as to not getting the IBF by then?

      Charlo had the opportunity to be FOTY, make a name for himself this year by unifying with Andrade in Feb/March, getting the IBF from Plant in May, and unifying at 168 vs Canelo. He would've been undisputed at 160 and 168. Instead of making those boss moves, he cries about not getting an opportunity to fight for a big payday while preserving that "0". Pathetic.
      Last edited by El_Maldito_Rey; 01-29-2021, 10:58 AM.

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        #123
        Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
        Nope. Canelo can fight. I don't like him because of the drug test, caneloweight, not giving rematches to Lara and trout, and all the sketchy **** he's done in his career, but I'm honest that he can fight. There aren't many special fighters, or fighters who I think can be special, in and around canelo's weight. Those special fighters are Andrade, Charlo, Bivol, Beterbiev. I don't wanna see BJS, Plant, Benavidez cuz we already know canelo better than them. And that's a compliment to Canelo, but at the same time I want to see the best fight the best so we really know who #1 p4p is. Cant' just call urself #1 p4p.
        I would take Benavidez over Andrade and possibly Charlo and Plant over Andrade. Andrade is talented but he doesn't have even one great victory at 32 years old.

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        • TernceBudCharlo
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          #124
          Originally posted by El_Maldito_Rey
          There's no excuse anymore for the September date. Canelo has made it no secret that this year he's going after the belts.

          He already has the WBO lined up for May. No need to cry about that one.

          IBF in September. What's Charlo's excuse as to not getting the IBF by then?

          Charlo had the opportunity to be FOTY, make a name for himself this year by unifying with Andrade in Feb/March, getting the IBF from Plant in May, and unifying at 168 vs Canelo. He would've been undisputed at 160 and 168. Instead of making those boss moves, he cries about not getting an opportunity to fight for a big payday while preserving that "0". Pathetic.

          What's Canelo's excuse for fleeing 154 to 160 to duck Andrade and Charlo? What's Canelo's excuse for fleeing 160 to 168 to duck Andrade and Charlo again? You must think us boxing fans are really ****ing ****** and gullible, he told those guys to get a belt at 154, didn't fight them. Told those guys to get a belt at 160, didn't fight them.

          Not falling for this bull**** a third time. Stop excusing your boys ducking.

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          • Silver Spear
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            #125
            Seeing as the governors of the worst covid handling states are already easing up their tyranny now that Trump is no longer president we should be able to assume that by May Nevada's governor will do the same. Thus allowing for fans in attendance.

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              #126
              Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
              Hey Canelo fanboys, how do you justify giving a big payday to a known drug cheat and overall terrible terrible person, Billy HOE Saunders, but not Demetrius Andrade, a good role model and an even better fighter??
              I respect your opinion that Andrade is a better fighter, and I agree that Billy Joe has exhibited some scumbag behavior. However, you cannot really think that Andrade being a better role model needs to factor into fight promotions. I mean, the annals of boxing are full of crummy people. Mike Tyson got title shots after a **** conviction and becoming a registered sex offender. Floyd Mayweather was a great champion, but a known beater of women. Kovalev is a drunken woman-beater. Bobby Czyz had more DUI's than wins in title fights; on and on it goes.

              I hope that Andrade gets the big fights he deserves, but in the unfortunate reality of pro boxing, him being a good man won't make much difference.

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              • TernceBudCharlo
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                #127
                Originally posted by Quercusalba
                I respect your opinion that Andrade is a better fighter, and I agree that Billy Joe has exhibited some scumbag behavior. However, you cannot really think that Andrade being a better role model needs to factor into fight promotions. I mean, the annals of boxing are full of crummy people. Mike Tyson got title shots after a **** conviction and becoming a registered sex offender. Floyd Mayweather was a great champion, but a known beater of women. Kovalev is a drunken woman-beater. Bobby Czyz had more DUI's than wins in title fights; on and on it goes.

                I hope that Andrade gets the big fights he deserves, but in the unfortunate reality of pro boxing, him being a good man won't make much difference.
                Good points, I guess what I'm saying is that I don't get why people would be happy for this fight when Billy Hoe is an absolutely scumbag piece of **** terrible awful human being.

                Any good person would be happy for Andrade for him to get that fight

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                • Silver Spear
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
                  What's Canelo's excuse for fleeing 154 to 160 to duck Andrade and Charlo? What's Canelo's excuse for fleeing 160 to 168 to duck Andrade and Charlo again? You must think us boxing fans are really ****ing ****** and gullible, he told those guys to get a belt at 154, didn't fight them. Told those guys to get a belt at 160, didn't fight them.

                  Not falling for this bull**** a third time. Stop excusing your boys ducking.
                  The only thing I can say is that could have been all Oscar and not Canelo who was not willing to make those fights. Now that Canelo is free to do as he wishes why not wait to see what he does. Charlo and Andrade bring no money to the table though so would they be willing to take less money than Canelo opponents make? How about the fact that Jermell went on record stating his brother declined the contract to fight Canelo? How can you say Canelo is ducking Jermall now?

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                  • Silver Spear
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
                    Good points, I guess what I'm saying is that I don't get why people would be happy for this fight when Billy Hoe is an absolutely scumbag piece of **** terrible awful human being.

                    Any good person would be happy for Andrade for him to get that fight
                    People are happy that the division is going to be unified instead of the champs running away from each other. How often do we actually get to see a division unifying?

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                    • SteveM
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Jab jab boom
                      So Canelo had a 3 fight offer from PBC for 75 mil guaranteed to face Plant, Charlo and a third fight which possibly could’ve been Benavidez, but he turned that down to take less money to face Smith, Yidilgrim and Saunders? Does it really need to be made much clearer what’s going on here?
                      How much is he making to fight those three?

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