Comments Thread For: Ryan Garcia's Father Says Pacquiao Deal is "Very Close" - Provides Details

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I said usually. He certainly could have been slightly heavier on several occasions but for the most part he weighs in below the welterweight limit of 147 lbs on fight day. He doesn't even cut down and fast on the day of the weigh in like most fighters and still eats his normal breakfast and lunch before the weight in at welterweight.

Doesnt matter where they started all the guys from 130 that go to WW are around 146-152 fight night they will only gain about 4-5 pounds of muscle across 4 divisions it just that they dont have to starve to train and dont dry out much to make weight its a much better way than the old dryout like a prune and gain a huge amount of water weight type thing, guys that were 135-140 go at about 155 , it varys a little but thats pretty close.

Manny is no midget, he is a short dense power house thats physically strong

[cjeagle1]

Doesnt matter where they started all the guys from 130 that go to WW are around 146-152 fight night they will only gain about 4-5 pounds of muscle across 4 divisions it just that they dont have to starve to train and dont dry out much to make weight its a much better way than the old dryout like a prune and gain a huge amount of water weight type thing, guys that were 135-140 go at about 155 , it varys a little but thats pretty close.

Manny is no midget, he is a short dense power house thats physically strong

Interestingly enough Pacquaio started fighting at minimum weight as a teenager and he said he had to put rocks in his pocket to make the 105 lbs weight limit for that division since he only weighed 98 lbs at that time.

He won his first world professional championship at flyweight(109 to 112 lbs).

Pacquaio also says he could easily make the junior welterweight division(140 lbs) today if he wants to.

BTW, Thurman actually called Manny a midget during their prefight hype interviews among other insults, one of the reasons Pacquaio was so determined to beat him.

I think Manny was upset the most though about Thurman saying he was going to crucify the devoutly evangelical Pacquaio.

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Interestingly enough Pacquaio started fighting at minimum weight as a teenager and he said he had to put rocks in his pocket to make the 105 lbs weight limit for that division since he only weighed 98 lbs at that time.

He won his first world professional championship at flyweight(109 to 112 lbs).

Pacquaio also says he could easily make the junior welterweight division(140 lbs) today if he wants to.

Its funny you say that because he had a 144 CW with Algieri and it was stated by Roach they were testing the waters for 140, they never went there, Oscar said he could make 147 same 7lbs and it ruined him, Manny been at WW for 20 fights now I think 140 will hurt him today, as I said its easy to say you can do it.

Funny thing about weight, doesn't matter what weight you are the guy your fighting is the same weight there abouts because of the division, a flyweight fights a flyweight, when he grows into a LW he is no longer a flyweight if he weighs 135 he every bit a LW.

Today Manny is a WW people try to make him out to be a flyweight its totally irrelevant today because he grew into the divisions.

[cjeagle1]

Its funny you say that because he had a 144 CW with Algieri and it was stated by Roach they were testing the waters for 140, they never went there, Oscar said he could make 147 same 7lbs and it ruined him, Manny been at WW for 20 fights now I think 140 will hurt him today, as I said its easy to say you can do it.

Funny thing about weight, doesn't matter what weight you are the guy your fighting is the same weight there abouts because of the division, a flyweight fights a flyweight, when he grows into a LW he is no longer a flyweight if he weighs 135 he every bit a LW.

Today Manny is a WW people try to make him out to be a flyweight its totally irrelevant today because he grew into the divisions.

He could cut down to junior welterweight but he doesn't have to. He is the top bill in any fight at this point in his career so he can pretty much dictate terms within reason when setting catchweights so I think a compromise weight just above 140 lbs would be decided upon in this projected fight between Pacquaio and Garcia if it pushes through. Even Garcia's father said 143 lbs would be okay.

[HewJohnson]

Let’s do it!

Ryan getting KTFO!

[Doubledagger]

Its not how it is, you cannot fight the big fights 4 times a year, they didnt either they fought stiffs, take SRR 140 or so fights , well he only had a 30 real ones with top guys maybe less , its no different today they still fight the same number of big fights over their career only its more refined as in conditioning and is a very different economic environment, its so much more complicated today with the big players.

Look at racehorses the average nag races as much as weekly in the season the champions 3 maybe 4 times a year, its much tougher to bounce back from competing against the very best competition. boxing is no different .

Its very different. This whole post is a contradiction.

As you say yourself, those guys could afford to fight stiffs and meaningless fights because they fought many times a year.

We cannot in our right minds tolerate the same from guys who fight once or twice a year. They have to fight a top level guy every time, plain and simple.

[Doubledagger]

He’s supposed to be fighting Logan Paul ?
Fck off mate. Get off tht dck

Duh! Old retired fightes fight exhibitions. Its common knowledge, and common sense.

[Doubledagger]

I understand you spend your soul protecting Floyd mayweather.
But here’s the facts.

First of all. I do not give a sht about Garcia and pacquio. If they have “an exhibition” fight, then that’s terrible and a complete embarrassment.

If they have a real fight, then that looks bad on pacquiao, but Garcia would have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

But let’s just put that aside.
The fact that you use this to deflect and defend mayweather just sickens me.

He is fighting, Logan Paul.
Who you want him too have an exhibition with next ? Charlie Zelenoff?
“Aw but he retired doe, he can do what he wants”

what he is doing is taking a big dump on the sport, and you eat it up and are trying to tell me it’s ice cream.

Creepy mofo

Pacquaio would be taking an even bigger dump on the sport because he is an active champion who is literally holding a division hostage.

At least Floyd dropped his belts before fighting the McGregor's, Tenshin's, and Logan Pauls.

In fact, he tried to give us the Spence vs Thurman fight in 2015 already when he offered to drop his belts and let them fight for them. (Of course that pos Thurman didn't want the smoke and refused, smh).

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Pacquaio's made this observation on Spence after the latter fought Danny Garcia: he thought he was much slower than Thurman who he already beat.

I think he is still willing to fight Spence. He said he wanted to fight twice in 2021 after all.

From what I have read he wanted to fight McGregor first though so he can donate most of the proceeds to his countrymen in the Philippines who were affected by the COVID pandemic. That is not going to happen after McGregor lost so maybe Ryan Garcia could become a plan B.

It is possible he was considering Spence after that since he considers him beatable.

BTW, Pacquaio is not really a true welterweight. He usually enters the ring around 143 to 145 lbs in welterweight fights so he is always at a disadvantage in that division after his opponents rehydrate to close to nearly 160 lbs in some cases.

I am sure he would be willing to take a fight at his natural division at junior welterweight if there are any superstars from that division and lightweight division who would be willing to move up to fight him at that division.

I read he was even willing to fight pound for pound top rated former lightweight champ Lomachenko at junior welterweight when he was at Top Rank but Lomachecko refused when given the option to do so which is one of the reasons why I consider Ryan Garcia praiseworthy. Taking on the challenge of fighting an all time great like the Pacman while coming from a lower weight division is no joke.

Bruh there are tale of the tapes of Pacquiao in his lightweight and junior welterweight bouts rehydrating to 150lbs.

He entered at 152lbs in the Mayweather fight.

Phuck outta here with that "entering at 143 or 145lbs" bs!

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Pac knocked out Luke Campbell? (Mandela effect) Because, I could of sworn Ryan did that. Smh.