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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    #41
    Originally posted by REDEEMER
    Foreman in the 90”s was slower and like Joyce much harder to stop . Joyce was called a slow robot from day one , very few saw what he actually was and that’s a big unit who’s a threat to anyone.
    Joyce has better endurance and possibly durability than both Joshua and Fury 'If Joyce can land on you, and you cannot stop him? He is going to give you issues.

    I think it would be a tough fight for this version of Fury 'Fury no longer uses his bamboozling riddler type style anymore, we have not seen this with the 270 + pound Fury'.

    Fury & Joshua are better than Joyce in many departments, but with his size, durability and endurance 'He is not a nice prospect'.

    Plus these injuries he is inflicting on his opponents, must be concerning for other heavyweights 'Dubois is a big dense heavyweight, and he was damaged badly'.

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      #42
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
      So Fury would actually face Joyce? I know Johsua would face both Joyce and Uysk 'But nobody seems worthy of facing Fury according to himself and his fans'.
      No probably not I was responding to a previous post with my opinion of who wins the match ups that were mentioned. I dont see Fury giving Joyce the light of day

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        #43
        Originally posted by Get em up
        No probably not I was responding to a previous post with my opinion of who wins the match ups that were mentioned. I dont see Fury giving Joyce the light of day
        I don't see Fury facing Usyk, Joyce, Whyte and he is already went on record saying he will not face Wilder again 'Strange behavior from a fighting man'.

        And let me make this clear? Fury is not facing people out of fear, I have always been adamant 'That he has never been the same kind of fighter since his comeback, he is civilized now' Like Rocky Balboa in Rocky 3 etc

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          #44
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
          I don't see Fury facing Usyk, Joyce, Whyte and he is already went on record saying he will not face Wilder again 'Strange behavior from a fighting man'.

          And let me make this clear? Fury is not facing people out of fear, I have always been adamant 'That he has never been the same kind of fighter since his comeback, he is civilized now' Like Rocky Balboa in Rocky 3 etc
          First I friggin love the analogy and second I agree I dont Fury fears any other fighter. I do however feel Fury is looking for the highest profile/paying fights every single time now. He will take a soft touch against an unknown undefeated fighter way or an AJ type fight for all the marbles but nothing in between unless he's forced.

          I'm straight up a Wilder fan even though that almost seems embarrassing to say here lately but I stick by my fighters like I do my favorite football team no matter how bad they look at the time. I will say as far as AJ goes I respect what he has done and give him any deserved credit and Fury is capable of being on another level compared to the current batch of heavyweights and I completely respect that too. I would still rather see AJ vs Wilder over any fight at heavyweight right now because of the build up and let down so many times. I believe that fight is an instant classic.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Get em up
            First I friggin love the analogy and second I agree I dont Fury fears any other fighter. I do however feel Fury is looking for the highest profile/paying fights every single time now. He will take a soft touch against an unknown undefeated fighter way or an AJ type fight for all the marbles but nothing in between unless he's forced.

            I'm straight up a Wilder fan even though that almost seems embarrassing to say here lately but I stick by my fighters like I do my favorite football team no matter how bad they look at the time. I will say as far as AJ goes I respect what he has done and give him any deserved credit and Fury is capable of being on another level compared to the current batch of heavyweights and I completely respect that too. I would still rather see AJ vs Wilder over any fight at heavyweight right now because of the build up and let down so many times. I believe that fight is an instant classic.
            Wilder's next move will be interesting.

            If Wilder's team want to chase the Fury fight again, they will have to ruffle Fury in some sort of way 'There is not just one Fury in the heavyweight division'.

            Fair enough Wilder lost the second fight to Fury, but he did not give up on himself inside of the ring 'He was having a real tough time, but was still trying' Wilder is a extremely game fighter, and his gameness is not a byproduct of him being massively durable 'Because he gets hit and hurt, all the time'.

            Fury deep down, will know that he did not beat Wilder into submission 'In his own culture, Wilder's attitude inside the ring would be revered'.

            I was watching something about Godzilla vs Kong the other day, and? They were analyzing the mentalities of both Godzilla and Kong. They were stating that Godzilla does not take a backward step, and even when knocked down 'All Godzilla will want to do, is rise back up and fight again' and what this does? Is destroy the morale of its enemies.

            Wilder in some ways is the same, he was being beat in every single department by Fury 'But was still fighting back, even with his limited abilities' as his corner stopped the fight, he was still fighting back etc I can assure you, that Fury will be aware of this as a fighter.

            Myself personally, I understand why the fight was stopped 'But in reality in a championship fight, you don't take a puncher out of the fight' Wilder was not some prospect that needed saving, sometimes you just have to let things go.

            Breland did nothing wrong, but sometimes maybe you just have to let things go.
            Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 01-27-2021, 01:53 PM.

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              #46
              Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
              Wilder's next move will be interesting.

              If Wilder's team want to chase the Fury fight again, they will have to ruffle Fury in some sort of way 'There is not just one Fury in the heavyweight division'.

              Fair enough Wilder lost the second fight to Fury, but he did not give up on himself inside of the ring 'He was having a real tough time, but was still trying' Wilder is a extremely game fighter, and his gameness is not a byproduct of him being massively durable 'Because he gets hit and hurt, all the time'.

              Fury deep down, will know that he did not beat Wilder into submission 'In his own culture, Wilder's attitude inside the ring would be revered'.

              I was watching something about Godzilla vs Kong the other day, and? They were analyzing the mentalities of both Godzilla and Kong. They were stating that Godzilla does not take a backward step, and even when knocked down 'All Godzilla will want to do, is rise back up and fight again' and what this does? Is destroy the morale of its enemies.

              Wilder in some ways is the same, he was being beat in every single department by Fury 'But was still fighting back, even with his limited abilities' as his corner stopped the fight, he was still fighting back etc I can assure you, that Fury will be aware of this as a fighter.

              Myself personally, I understand why the fight was stopped 'But in reality in a championship fight, you don't take a puncher out of the fight' Wilder was not some prospect that needed saving, sometimes you just have to let things go.

              Breland did nothing wrong, but sometimes maybe you just have to let things go.
              The last line of this is exactly right. Saving a young fighter from himself I understand but a 1 punch knockout artist is another topic IMO. Wilder saved himself in the 12th round during the first fight. Who's to say he couldn't have done it again. Either way hopefully we will see the best of the big 3 to come.

              I know some people dont consider Wilder in the big picture anymore and that's fine but I haven't counted him out.

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