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Originally posted by theface07 View PostBecause he's an arrogant, delusional piece of garbage who talks all kinds of trash like he's the king even after he gets chocked out by Khabib. The guy is a horrible human being, annoying as hell and can't even back up all his boasting by winning in his own sport. Good enough?
I could only wish his beatdown in the cage/ring were even worse.
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Originally posted by Cigar View PostOh yeah?? What else do boxers have to deal with? Kicks? Elbows? Knees? Going to the ground?? Heck a guy like Mayweather could have Kenny Bayless or Joe refereeing his fights and not even have to deal with clinches and in-fighting!!! Sounds like just hands to me, buddy.
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Originally posted by TMLT87 View PostIts embarrassing for boxing that at this rate most high profile contemporary boxing matches wont even involve actual active boxers.
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Originally posted by theface07 View PostWhere's all that money going then bro? Why are the top UFC fighters getting paid MUCH less than top boxers? Why do top earning UFC fighters like McMuffin feel the need to turn to boxing? That's a bit strange isn't it?
Boxing fans cling to the money argument because its one of the few criterias that indicates that boxing is still bigger, but its crazy money thats concentrated into a small number of top names who are usually ridiculously overpaid relative to their drawing power. You've got Canelo getting a $35m purse to fight Kovalev on DAZN, only to sit in his locker room for an hour while a UFC PPV gets played into the arena to his own live crowd. The Charlos getting paid millions to get the kind of PPV numbers that some random UFC womens fight would do. Fury being paid a **** ton mainly to fight bums on ESPN for free etc etc. Floyd is the only guy that you could argue is worth such crazy money relative to his drawing power, but even then not really considering the total combined cost in purses for every single UFC fight PPV and non PPV from 2010-2017 was less than Floyd got paid over that same time period, but their PPVs generated like double the buys even with Floyd/Conor accounting for like a quarter of Floyds total buys.
Originally posted by theface07 View PostTo deluded MMA fanboys like yourself maybe but to actual boxing fans Joshua/Fury is WAY bigger than Pac/McMuff. Usyk/Joyce is bigger. ****, the next big fight, Chocolatito/Estrada is bigger. I'm not judging what the best fights are based on the deluded social media/UFC clowns who pay for anything as long as their boyfriends are involved. I'm talking about meaningful fights against high level boxers. This does not include McMuffin.
I'm not arguing that there arent good fights for the hardcores in boxing still, but the mainstream audience is pretty much dead now. Which is why we are reaching the stages of barrel scraping circus **** to move the needle. The UFC is doing big numbers regularly without a Youtuber, NBA player, boxer or 50 year old in sight.
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Originally posted by Cigar View PostAgain, another comment that embarrasses boxing. The top fighter in MMA knows he could make a boatload of money facing a boxer AND only have to deal with one physical threat, hands.
You need to specialize in using only your hands, which limits the different ways you can win.
Boxing is like taking a calculus exam and not being allowed a calculator, just scrap paper. MMA is a calculus test where you can bring scrap paper, a calculator and it’s an open-book test.
Are both sports hard? Absolutely. While there’s more ways to lose in MMA, there’s also more ways to win. But you have no choice but to use your hands only in boxing. No wrestling or kicking. I think this is harder. You can beat someone in a street fight, let’s say someone much bigger than you. If you’re a good fighter, all around. But if you get in the ring with that same person you know you can beat up in a street fight (using punching, wrestling, and other tactics), he might win and i’ve actually witnessed this before.
And don’t get me wrong, pro boxers can’t go into MMA and be very successful and superior. But MMA fighters can’t come into boxing and be successful or superior. I’m strictly talking about those who want to transition sports, not what-if scenario like what if Khabib took up boxing instead of MMA. Just saying switching mid career or at end of your career.
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The thing about these MMA guys more than anything, is they can't hurt boxers with their punches. McGregor is known as one of the hardest punchers in MMA history, 1 punch KO power. He actually caught Floyd clean with his best uppercut, it literally was like a job to Floyd, he didn't even flinch, it was nothing to him.
People want to see McGregor get knocked out cold, that's what's going to happen if he keeps boxing.
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostAnd he will still lose.
You need to specialize in using only your hands, which limits the different ways you can win.
Boxing is like taking a calculus exam and not being allowed a calculator, just scrap paper. MMA is a calculus test where you can bring scrap paper, a calculator and it’s an open-book test.
Are both sports hard? Absolutely. While there’s more ways to lose in MMA, there’s also more ways to win. But you have no choice but to use your hands only in boxing. No wrestling or kicking. I think this is harder. You can beat someone in a street fight, let’s say someone much bigger than you. If you’re a good fighter, all around. But if you get in the ring with that same person you know you can beat up in a street fight (using punching, wrestling, and other tactics), he might win and i’ve actually witnessed this before.
And don’t get me wrong, pro boxers can’t go into MMA and be very successful and superior. But MMA fighters can’t come into boxing and be successful or superior. I’m strictly talking about those who want to transition sports, not what-if scenario like what if Khabib took up boxing instead of MMA. Just saying switching mid career or at end of your career.
Mayweather can ONLY win in a "fight" that allows him to move around a very big space, avoid clinches or have refs break clinches up, and win the most boring 36 minutes of "combat" anyone has ever seen. It really is an indictment of boxing itself that this guy is, by far, the number one earner in the sport. And boxing will always be tops for me. I grew up watching it and I still love it. But Mayweather has been the biggest curse on this once great sport. Now you have these PBC guys all trying to follow his out of the ring blue print. And MMA and YouTubers see that they can make obscene amounts of money in the boxing ring without having to learn or risk too much. It's all ridiculous.
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Originally posted by theface07 View PostYou obviously don't understand the subtleties of the art of boxing at all. "Strikes" in MMA are NOT the same as punches in boxing. It's a totally different style, a totally different discipline and besides, he already got beat down by old man, brittle hands Mayweather. What do you think Pacquiao would do to him? You McMuffin fanatics are hilarious. He's an overhyped clown and is now done. He will never beat a decent boxer if he can't even beat a decent MMA fighter. MMA is his sport, the one he is much more familiar with. What about that don't you understand or is it your race based obsession with McMuffin too strong for you to accept reality?
And quit with the race crap. You're only proving that you're the racist.
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Originally posted by theface07 View PostBecause he's an arrogant, delusional piece of garbage who talks all kinds of trash like he's the king even after he gets chocked out by Khabib. The guy is a horrible human being, annoying as hell and can't even back up all his boasting by winning in his own sport. Good enough?
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