Shawn Porter eloquently exposes Rob Arum

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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    #151
    Originally posted by Ray*
    Not Haymon is quiet because he doesn’t want to invest in boxing, Haymon speaks through other promoters that he works with (Now that’s understanding boxing).

    Saying your fighters and his opponent numbers aren’t great and isn’t generating revenue is different to saying “Don’t have” money.... Look that up in a dictionary.
    You contradict yourself, because you just got done criticizing Haymon for being quiet.

    The bias is clear, bro.

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      #152
      Originally posted by maguirre
      I don't even see Arum rushing to make TC's next fight as his fight with Brook was not so long ago. Meanwhile, Porter's clock is ticking. It's been almost six months since his last fight with a nobody. He's supposed to be announcing his next fight with PBC by now. Is he waiting for a $2 million offer from Haymon in these pandemic times? It's highly unlikely.
      Yeah, father and son team Porter are itching to get back in the ring.
      Not the same case with Crawford. The Porters and their new fans
      can cry lowball till they're blue in the face and it will all fall on deaf ears.
      Go ask uncle Al what you want to do next in your own PBC home doe.
      $1 million for a chance to beat Crawford and steal his belt is a serious offer.

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        #153
        Originally posted by genrick
        $1 million for a chance to beat Crawford and steal his belt is a serious offer.
        Yordenis Ugas would take that offer.

        But Crawford and Arum don't want that smoke.

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          #154
          Originally posted by genrick
          Yeah, father and son team Porter are itching to get back in the ring.
          Not the same case with Crawford. The Porters and their new fans
          can cry lowball till they're blue in the face and it will all fall on deaf ears.
          Go ask uncle Al what you want to do next in your own PBC home doe.
          $1 million for a chance to beat Crawford and steal his belt is a serious offer.
          Notice how Coppinger can report all these fight purses but couldn't report what Porter was making to fight Formella.

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            #155
            Originally posted by revelated
            You contradict yourself, because you just got done criticizing Haymon for being quiet.

            The bias is clear, bro.
            You didn't point out the "Contradiction" - Just saying it doesn't meant it true. Again Haymon has promoters working for him, so he can be silent and make offers. That's exposing you right there, and when you have zero come back, you came out with "Bias" - Am shocked you didn't use "Race"

            You claimed Arum lied....Lmaooooo

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            • maguirre
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              #156
              Originally posted by genrick
              Yeah, father and son team Porter are itching to get back in the ring.
              Not the same case with Crawford. The Porters and their new fans
              can cry lowball till they're blue in the face and it will all fall on deaf ears.
              Go ask uncle Al what you want to do next in your own PBC home doe.
              $1 million for a chance to beat Crawford and steal his belt is a serious offer.
              Spence is not so enthusiastic about a rematch with Porter, who is also not amenable to a rematch with Ugas.

              Lipinets is available for Porter at PBC in-house. Don't know if he's even worth $1 million for that fight. He might even lose in that fight, or if he wins, it would be just another meh win. Big deal.

              Again, Porter is supposed to be announcing the schedule of his PBC fight, which is 2-3 months from now. Otherwise, he'll be approaching one year layoff.

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                #157
                Originally posted by maguirre
                Again, Porter is supposed to be announcing the schedule of his PBC fight, which is 2-3 months from now. Otherwise, he'll be approaching one year layoff.
                The irony is that Porter is now in the position he yelled at Keef about years ago - different reason but same situation "there's no opponent" (when there is).



                This is actually good for the welterweight division, think about it.

                Shawn has from my perspective really a lot of choices.

                * Manny for WBA, who I think won't take that fight even though Shawn is coming off a loss (but I'd LOVE to see it) - it'd trigger Horn PTSD for Pacquiao, guaranteed

                * Keef, who wouldn't want it

                * Danny, who wouldn't want it

                * Abdukakhorov for vacant IBF Interim

                * Spence rematch, who doesn't want it (but doesn't really have a choice because Porter is WBC mandatory)

                * Crawford for WBO, who doesn't want it (but doesn't really have a choice because Porter is WBO mandatory)

                * Ugas rematch for the WBA Regular - problem is, WBA doesn't even rank Porter in the Top 15 for some odd reason.


                If I'm Porter's camp, I'm telling him to keep chasing Crawford.

                Why?

                Because fundamentally, he should be chasing a title. But:

                if WBA isn't going to rank him, an Ugas rematch makes no sense, you can't sell it.

                Spence rematch sees Porter lose even wider, period, especially after the Danny performance. So no WBC.

                Manny is NOT going to fight Shawn. SO no WBA.

                Abdukakhorov isn't a fight you can sell because nobody knows who he is. Even if Shawn won, it just means a Spence rematch and him losing.

                That only leaves Crawford with the WBO.

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by maguirre
                  Spence is not so enthusiastic about a rematch with Porter, who is also not amenable to a rematch with Ugas.

                  Lipinets is available for Porter at PBC in-house. Don't know if he's even worth $1 million for that fight. He might even lose in that fight, or if he wins, it would be just another meh win. Big deal.

                  Again, Porter is supposed to be announcing the schedule of his PBC fight, which is 2-3 months from now. Otherwise, he'll be approaching one year layoff.
                  True. Porter doesn't have a lot of options in a year where
                  everyone says they want to fight 3 times this 2021.
                  It's a waiting game for him expecting no movement.

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by revelated
                    Shawn has from my perspective really a lot of choices.
                    Not one of those PBC fights you listed are going to happen anytime soon. Let's be real. Otherwise, we're already seeing waves of ripples in an empty ocean.

                    The only offer that is on the table is a life changing career if he beats Crawford. He'll regret if for the rest of his life if he insists on turning it down.

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by maguirre
                      Not one of those PBC fights you listed are going to happen anytime soon. Let's be real. Otherwise, we're already seeing waves of ripples in an empty ocean.

                      The only offer that is on the table is a life changing career if he beats Crawford. He'll regret if for the rest of his life if he insists on turning it down.
                      I don't agree with your last sentence because it doesn't reflect the reality of the situation.

                      Crawford needs Porter, NOT the other way around.

                      Porter remains mandatory for Spence. That's top dog right there. Means he technically can fight anyone to defend that mandatory position.

                      What's really happening is that Arum/BoMac/Crawford (in that order) are doing everything in their power to duck a Porter fight.

                      Crawford apparently doesn't regret not having a signature win on the record.

                      So, if I'm Crawford's camp, I'd tell him to do what Floyd did with Oscar. Accept whatever terms to make the Porter fight BECAUSE it's a legacy fight.

                      Truth is, I know what BoMac's doing - he's holding out until October so they can leave Top Rank. Arum already exposed it.

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