Shawn Porter eloquently exposes Rob Arum

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    #141
    Originally posted by Ray*
    If you understand boxing then you would not use or compare Joshua - Fury to anything Crawford

    Business is business, there is a reason Haymon is quiet when it comes to making offers for this fight. All the other stuffs you typed out is pretty much irrelevant.
    Haymon is quiet because he's Haymon.

    THAT is understanding boxing.

    "At The End Of The Day", saying you "don't have" money is a lie.

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      #142
      Originally posted by DaNeutral.
      Oh absolutely, anybody saying uncle Al can't or shouldn't make an offer is full of chit and anybody who says Crawford can only fight on ESPN needs to explain what happens if it went to purse bids and PBC won it.

      1 million to Porter isn't a great offer at all but those moaning about it on here are the same ppl that mock Crawford for not being a big star and Arum of losing money on Crawford. So what do they want Arum to do? Directly make a loss for the sake of it?

      Porter aint no star and didn't get a massive amount more in other fights, times are tight for Arum and with Covid, Crawford is offering up a workd title.

      Ive seen better offers, I've seen worse and there are other ways to try make this fight happen which are in the hands of Porter and the PBC.
      That’s the thing, Porter definitely deserves more than 1m. But the money isn’t there, not only with the pandemic but him and Crawford aren’t going to be selling all that well.

      Add the fact that Rank are losing money on Crawford, so am not sure what these lowball crew expect Top rank to do.

      I mean if this fight gets made and then does 100k, they would be the same people who would laugh.

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        #143
        Originally posted by revelated
        Haymon is quiet because he's Haymon.

        THAT is understanding boxing.

        "At The End Of The Day", saying you "don't have" money is a lie.
        Not Haymon is quiet because he doesn’t want to invest in boxing, Haymon speaks through other promoters that he works with (Now that’s understanding boxing).

        Saying your fighters and his opponent numbers aren’t great and isn’t generating revenue is different to saying “Don’t have” money.... Look that up in a dictionary.

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          #144
          Originally posted by Ray*
          That’s the thing, Porter definitely deserves more than 1m. But the money isn’t there, not only with the pandemic but him and Crawford aren’t going to be selling all that well.

          Add the fact that Rank are losing money on Crawford, so am not sure what these lowball crew expect Top rank to do.

          I mean if this fight gets made and then does 100k, they would be the same people who would laugh.
          The "lowball crew" wants Crawford to take the 40% of the purse he is being offered to fight Spence.

          But if he won't do that and Arum is to cheap to pay Porter or Thurman what they are worth then we want to see Crawford fight Yordenis Ugas at least. He'll take the $1 million.

          Bud has run out of excuses for all these soft touch fights.

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            #145
            Originally posted by KillaMane26
            They also have most of the known 147 guys under the same stable.

            If Arum had a stable of 147 guys TC would be bigger.

            Only reason Bradley got big cuz he had the luxury of fighting Manny and Marquez... U take those two fights away... What do u have?

            Terrence Crawford 2021
            Bradley has some really good wins over prime fighters. He beat Alexander, Holt, Peterson, and Vasquez in their primes. He also KO'd Rios & schooled Vargas.

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              #146
              Originally posted by Boxfan83
              Bradley has some really good wins over prime fighters. He beat Alexander, Holt, Peterson, and Vasquez in their primes. He also KO'd Rios & schooled Vargas.
              Like I said he would be Crawford who has good wins but 147 lacking

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                #147
                Originally posted by KillaMane26
                Like I said he would be Crawford who has good wins but 147 lacking
                Are you saying Bradley and Crawford are the same level

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                  The "lowball crew" wants Crawford to take the 40% of the purse he is being offered to fight Spence.

                  But if he won't do that and Arum is to cheap to pay Porter or Thurman what they are worth then we want to see Crawford fight Yordenis Ugas at least. He'll take the $1 million.

                  Bud has run out of excuses for all these soft touch fights.
                  Couldn’t care less about a fight that isn’t happening.

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Ray*
                    Couldn’t care less about a fight that isn’t happening.
                    Don't you want to see good fights?

                    Crawford has several options whether he wants to get paid by PBC or have Arum pay PBC fighters. With high purses or with cheap $1 million purses.

                    But that side of the street refuses to take tough fights.

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      Don't you want to see good fights?
                      Am not getting my hopes up with certain people, we have Ioka/Tanaka and Fury/Joshua is coming up soon. No worries we getting fights around world.

                      No just showcase fights after showcase fights, while crying about being lowballed or being the Z side.

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