Bob Arum: "Wilder has 100% lost the case against Fury"

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  • kafkod
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    #41
    Originally posted by REDEEMER
    Wilder already said he’s moving on way back in November.

    However this is what he said mid October,

    “Oh yeah, I can’t work out now. Once I get healed with my arm I’m looking forward to just working out, being able to do the things I love to do,” said Wilder”

    How can he train let alone fight if he can’t even work out ? So he vaguely calls off the Fury fight a month later , the link shows this .




    Why is Wilder waiting and claiming he’s looking for new opponents in November of 2020 , when the fight is not scheduled until February 2021 according to Finkle ?

    This is contradictory to what Finkle claims of a fight is happening in December but then he says that’s when sparring partners will be looked for in that month .


    These guys just can’t get this story straight ,I don’t believe they really wanted it and wanted to get free pay out of mediation and put Wilders name out there like he did with A.J . These guys are the worst liars .
    Yeah, in October, he told Behind The Gloves he still couldn't work out because of an injury suffered in the spring, then a month later he told Brian Custer he'd been ready to fight since September!

    He also told Custer he'd moved on from Fury and and would be fighting somebody else in January. Meanwhile, Finkel was claiming Fury/Wilder was still being negotiated for February!

    WTF?

    That's the problem with becoming a habitual liar ... you tell so many porkies you lose track and end up exposing yourself with contradictions like those.
    Last edited by kafkod; 01-20-2021, 12:42 PM.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
      "We came up with a possible solution to allow the Fury Joshua fight to happen & Fury if he won would fight Wilder..."

      But the rematch is expired. They owe Wilder nothing. Why are they even discussing a solution?
      You obviously didn't listen to everything Arum said. The mediator suggested ending the disagreement by rescheduling the fight. But Fury shot that down in flames because he was pissed off by all the lies and slurs from Wilder.

      Wilder basically talked himself out of a 3rd fight, while at the same time throwing up a lot of dumb excuses for losing the 2nd, which I believe was exactly what he was trying to do.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
        "We came up with a possible solution to allow the Fury Joshua fight to happen & Fury if he won would fight Wilder..."
        And what if Fury didn't win? Why would the mediator suggest Wilder make himself a hostage to fortune like that if he still had a binding contract to fight Fury whatever?

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          #44
          Originally posted by kafkod
          You obviously didn't listen to everything Arum said. The mediator suggested ending the disagreement by rescheduling the fight. But Fury shot that down in flames because he was pissed off by all the lies and slurs from Wilder.

          Wilder basically talked himself out of a 3rd fight, while at the same time throwing up a lot of dumb excuses for losing the 2nd, which I believe was exactly what he was trying to do.
          I listened to the whole thing. Arum made a ridiculous assertion that no lawyer would pick up the arbitration because they'd lose. Lawyers work for money. They'd be a line of 100 lawyers outside Finkel's door to collect a check. Arum, a retired lawyer himself, knows that every lawyer will take a case not based on the merits but based on the money. We just saw Trump & his lawyers go 1 for 59 in court cases they knew they'd lose.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
            I listened to the whole thing. Arum made a ridiculous assertion that no lawyer would pick up the arbitration because they'd lose. Lawyers work for money. They'd be a line of 100 lawyers outside Finkel's door to collect a check. Arum, a retired lawyer himself, knows that every lawyer will take a case not based on the merits but based on the money. We just saw Trump & his lawyers go 1 for 59 in court cases they knew they'd lose.
            A lawyer isn’t going to advise team Wilder to that route he would advise them to settle knowing that is how he and they make more money . Finkle was a lawyer himself why is he going to go into a losing arbitration ?

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              #46
              Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
              "We came up with a possible solution to allow the Fury Joshua fight to happen & Fury if he won would fight Wilder..."

              But the rematch is expired. They owe Wilder nothing. Why are they even discussing a solution?
              Because maybe, "they owe Wilder nothing" isn't the case???

              I mean, seeing you people argue this with yourselves is simply extraordinary.

              If Wilder and co. didn't have a case then they wouldn't even be in discussion.

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                #47
                Originally posted by REDEEMER
                Well there’s only two choices to really rank the top guy it’s either Fury or AJ so not sure what relevance it has to boxrec who have Wilder at 2 which proves it’s flawed .

                Most fighters don’t deserve a shot at titles but that’s not because of today that’s just about every era the difference here is A.J is fighting guys highly ranked all the time ,go look at almost anyone’s resume you’ll see many guys taking easy touch fights .

                In this particular era you had Wilder picking the ones he thought or were far chances of winning , Fury wasn’t even a defending champion. It has been A.J carrying the division the entire time he got a hold of his first belt which was 2016 against Martin .
                Boxing has 6+ champions per weight class. The word CHAMPION means BEST and it is IMPOSSIBLE to have 6 "best"...only ONE can be BEST. That is why I like BoxRec. I don't necessarily praise their algorithm but we need something OBJECTIVE and while BoxRec is far from perfect its leagues better than BOXING and all of its corrupt politics.

                Wilder was always a fringe champion. Go back YEARS and look at my accounts (was banned for calling out #WonderWhiteBreadMan) and I always said Wilder was C level. I also am not high on Spence or Thurman and have NEVER been. Both guys are decent fighters but people act like ANY OF THEM have ever fought an elite opponent - THEY HAVE NOT. ZERO ELITE OPPONENTS. And they passed up and continue to DUCK Crawford - an elite fighter.

                PBC is a serious JOKE of an organization. I initially supported PBC but they became as corrupt and in some ways more corrupt than GB/TR/DAZN. Originally PBC was going to make the PBC belt and I thought, fuck it...mb it can take over all the other ORGS. Wishful thinking

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by #1PaperChamp
                  Boxing has 6+ champions per weight class. The word CHAMPION means BEST and it is IMPOSSIBLE to have 6 "best"...only ONE can be BEST. That is why I like BoxRec. I don't necessarily praise their algorithm but we need something OBJECTIVE and while BoxRec is far from perfect its leagues better than BOXING and all of its corrupt politics.

                  Wilder was always a fringe champion. Go back YEARS and look at my accounts (was banned for calling out #WonderWhiteBreadMan) and I always said Wilder was C level. I also am not high on Spence or Thurman and have NEVER been. Both guys are decent fighters but people act like ANY OF THEM have ever fought an elite opponent - THEY HAVE NOT. ZERO ELITE OPPONENTS. And they passed up and continue to DUCK Crawford - an elite fighter.

                  PBC is a serious JOKE of an organization. I initially supported PBC but they became as corrupt and in some ways more corrupt than GB/TR/DAZN. Originally PBC was going to make the PBC belt and I thought, fuck it...mb it can take over all the other ORGS. Wishful thinking
                  hahahahaa...pls tell u arent serious

                  danny, porter, thurman and spence all have better resumes than crawford....and their promoter can afford to pay them to fight each other lol....bob cant afford porter or thurman and everyone knows it

                  bob arum had a pac fight right there for the taking for bud...and nothing...then as soon as pac beats thurman bob is alllll "oh man bud vs pac is the fight we need to see"...lol...FOH with that BS

                  the pbc aint any worse than anyone else...bob arum would be acting no differently if he had bud, danny, thurman and porter and al had bud.....bud is the one that reupped with bob knowing how the game works and where all the names were....FOH

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                    #49
                    I don't mean this to be hateful.

                    Bob Arum is well past his ability to give a worth a **** interview. If you have time to listen to him drone, slowly, over a point that's about as complex as a stick you sir have way too much free time and should use that time to start a business or some such rather than listen to a man who is so old it takes him a full minute to drop one line.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by #1PaperChamp
                      Boxing has 6+ champions per weight class. The word CHAMPION means BEST and it is IMPOSSIBLE to have 6 "best"...only ONE can be BEST. That is why I like BoxRec. I don't necessarily praise their algorithm but we need something OBJECTIVE and while BoxRec is far from perfect its leagues better than BOXING and all of its corrupt politics.

                      Wilder was always a fringe champion. Go back YEARS and look at my accounts (was banned for calling out #WonderWhiteBreadMan) and I always said Wilder was C level. I also am not high on Spence or Thurman and have NEVER been. Both guys are decent fighters but people act like ANY OF THEM have ever fought an elite opponent - THEY HAVE NOT. ZERO ELITE OPPONENTS. And they passed up and continue to DUCK Crawford - an elite fighter.

                      PBC is a serious JOKE of an organization. I initially supported PBC but they became as corrupt and in some ways more corrupt than GB/TR/DAZN. Originally PBC was going to make the PBC belt and I thought, fuck it...mb it can take over all the other ORGS. Wishful thinking
                      How you gonna praise boxrec then throw Wilder shade? He's second to one man on their ratings...

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