Bob Arum: "Wilder has 100% lost the case against Fury"

[kafkod]

He was very tactical, he release a video about how the king would be back, like he was rallying his troops, he then proceed to stay silent for 9 months, knowingly and only came out AFTER the stipulated contract had expired, like Fury was avoiding the rematch. They knew exactly what they were doing. You can blame covid all you want but if you want that fight then your actions would show that you do want it.

Like I've said before .. neither side really wanted the fight during the Covid crises, but only one side needed it, and they didn't do anything to get it.

[KingGilgamesh]

All this means nothing. Kinda getting sick of Arum trying to negotiate through the media. Didn't seem to work in December and I dont think it will work now. All that matters is how the court rule (and tbh Wilder's case doesn't look very strong), until that point I'll wait. But, considering just how much is being said by Arum, I am not entirely sure he's on particularly good stead either.

Despite his clear intellect, his dishonesty is kinda unnerving at times. I used to think Hearn was bad (he is) but he takes it to a whole new level. The way he just casually pretended as if Pulev really had a chance and as if he really would have been happy with the ****ing pittance a undisputed showdown between Pulev and Fury would have earned. Its impressive how has the ability to say things completely incongruent with his own desires and beliefs...

But then maybe its because dumbasses eat it up so easily. I think its like covid conspiracies and how the more fantastical the conspiracy, the more it convinces those of poor social strata and education. There is absolutely no reason to believe anything Arum has to say when it comes to contractual disputes, from my understanding he has been shot down by Haymon numerous times before.

[KingGilgamesh]

He and Finkel have a lot of experience pulling that trick. And of course, they have their sock puppet shills and fan boys backing up everything they say, no matter how outrageous it is.

These are the kind of low intellect people I am talking about. This guy I'm replying and Redeemer. Guys you can almost positively assume don't have a lick of post secondary education. The UK is full of them, hence why they keep electing charlatans like the current government.

Using horse**** like "LDBC" as if a bunch youtubers will have any kind of effect on the outcome of negotiation/mediation/litigation between these multi-million dollar en****** and individuals.

[kafkod]

All this means nothing. Kinda getting sick of Arum trying to negotiate through the media. Didn't seem to work in December and I dont think it will work now. All that matters is how the court rule (and tbh Wilder's case doesn't look very strong), until that point I'll wait. But, considering just how much is being said by Arum, I am not entirely sure he's on particularly good stead either.

Despite his clear intellect, his dishonesty is kinda unnerving at times. I used to think Hearn was bad (he is) but he takes it to a whole new level. The way he just casually pretended as if Pulev really had a chance and as if he really would have been happy with the ****ing pittance a undisputed showdown between Pulev and Fury would have earned. Its impressive how has the ability to say things completely incongruent with his own desires and beliefs...

But then maybe its because dumbasses eat it up so easily. I think its like covid conspiracies and how the more fantastical the conspiracy, the more it convinces those of poor social strata and education. There is absolutely no reason to believe anything Arum has to say when it comes to contractual disputes, from my understanding he has been shot down by Haymon numerous times before.

You're understanding is flawed, as is your naive idea of what the job of a boxing promoter actually is.

Clue: It isn't to tell boxing fans the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about boxing.

[kafkod]

These are the kind of low intellect people I am talking about. This guy I'm replying and Redeemer. Guys you can almost positively assume don't have a lick of post secondary education. The UK is full of them, hence why they keep electing charlatans like the current government.

Using horse**** like "LDBC" as if a bunch youtubers will have any kind of effect on the outcome of negotiation/mediation/litigation between these multi-million dollar en****** and individuals.

So why do these multi-million dollar en****** and individuals, like Hearn, Arum, Wilder, Sugarhill Steward, etc, bother giving interviews to LDBC channels?

[REDEEMER]

BoxRec is better than BOXING though as it lists ONE CHAMP for ONE WEIGHT CLASS.

And most of these contenders today fight bums and has beens and try to demand a shot...based on what ?

Wilder was getting sparked against any remotely decent HW. He had 2 decent wins over Ortiz and literally nothing else of value in his ENTIRE RESUME.

Well there’s only two choices to really rank the top guy it’s either Fury or AJ so not sure what relevance it has to boxrec who have Wilder at 2 which proves it’s flawed .

Most fighters don’t deserve a shot at titles but that’s not because of today that’s just about every era the difference here is A.J is fighting guys highly ranked all the time ,go look at almost anyone’s resume you’ll see many guys taking easy touch fights .

In this particular era you had Wilder picking the ones he thought or were far chances of winning , Fury wasn’t even a defending champion. It has been A.J carrying the division the entire time he got a hold of his first belt which was 2016 against Martin .

[ELPacman]

Covid really ruined the fight but whatever. I hope Wilder can come back with a ****. Excuses aside, I'd love to see that 3rd fight.

[REDEEMER]

He and Finkel have a lot of experience pulling that trick. And of course, they have their sock puppet shills and fan boys backing up everything they say, no matter how outrageous it is.

Wilder already said he’s moving on way back in November.

However this is what he said mid October,

“Oh yeah, I can’t work out now. Once I get healed with my arm I’m looking forward to just working out, being able to do the things I love to do,” said Wilder”

How can he train let alone fight if he can’t even work out ? So he vaguely calls off the Fury fight a month later , the link shows this .

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/13221703/deontay-wilder-tyson-fury-dillian-whyte/

Why is Wilder waiting and claiming he’s looking for new opponents in November of 2020 , when the fight is not scheduled until February 2021 according to Finkle ?

This is contradictory to what Finkle claims of a fight is happening in December but then he says that’s when sparring partners will be looked for in that month .


These guys just can’t get this story straight ,I don’t believe they really wanted it and wanted to get free pay out of mediation and put Wilders name out there like he did with A.J . These guys are the worst liars .

[REDEEMER]

He's getting upset cuz ppl demanding he adds some quality to his resume, he claims his resume is already great hence his BOXREC score.

But try asking him to name these top fighters he has bravely battled and he soon starts flapping.

Disproving that guy WBC WBA IBF isn’t the hardest thing to do ,just ask him to post specific names or quotes of someone if there’s a discrepancy . He hides behind formal rules , hypotheticals , and thinks most aren’t going to be smart enough to figure out the wording he mixes up to make his stance seem credible is a bunch of bull . Ha

His best attribute is patting himself on the back then kindly goes into if you have any other questions he will continue to give you the facts as though he educated you . Ha

[Motorcity Cobra]

"We came up with a possible solution to allow the Fury Joshua fight to happen & Fury if he won would fight Wilder..."

But the rematch is expired. They owe Wilder nothing. Why are they even discussing a solution?