I thought Thurman retired years ago. Aint he way past his time? Didnt he come out of retirement to lose to Pac ? That was a long time ago. How is he ranked so high nowdays anyhow with all the great talent in the division? At this point forget him fighting and losing to Ugas and Ennis. I don't even see Thurman getting past Omar Figueroa or Rashidii Ellis. (Someone make a fight with Speedy. I gotta see if he's for real.)
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What would PBC offer Crawford and Thurman, if Bob for a small fee, allowed Al Hayman to be lead promoter?
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Originally posted by kej718 View PostEubank is the worst example to give. Hearn got him a fight with GGG and he walked away from it. The fact that he was able to leave in the first place should tell you a lot, he didn't have to sit out the rest of his contract. Haymon has let his fighters go to pursue more money and titles (Jacobs, Eleider Alvarez, Beterbiev, etc.) Arum and Hearn didn't want to work with Haymon to get those guys fights, they wanted the fighters under contract.
This whole notion of them working together is a joke. This is why they try to go directly to the fighters behind Haymons back. We didn;t get Floyd vs Manny until they met and Manny spoke to Al, and then a little while later he ended up signing with him.
As a far as stars, you don't think Spence, or Tank are stars? They fill out arenas all the time.
So much bullshlt in this thread, but i've dominated all of them only for them to continue with this madness. So what's the point? PBC are extremists and well known for it for a reason. But lets see if you will take facts instead of fantasy. Show me what you've got?
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Originally posted by Curt Henning View Posttrust me man...theres a certain percentage of fgts who will never admit anything positive pertaining to a pbc fighter
tank has sold 12k in tix in two different cities...has been main support to a floyd ppv that did over 2 million buys...headlined his own cards and has a ppv all by age 26....hes constantly getting called out by all the names in the division because they all know hes the biggest name in the division
and youre right...when there was alot of money/good deal on the line for a haymon fighter he let them go elsewhere and make it
After Pedraza, he spent over 3 years in the wilderness. He then wants to fight a finished Mares who has been out of the ring for years and coming off a defeat. When that's a no go, he brings in the smaller Cruz to guarantee victory. That is beyond pathetic. Tank has done nothing but duck the top fighters and stack advantages in his favour.
Haymon doesn't have 1 legit star. They're all jokers who have done nothing. The fights he does make come with serious asterisks. Which ones don't? I'll happily correct you like always.
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Originally posted by kej718 View PostPBC has made attempts to make these kind of fights but other promoters will block it unless it benefits them.
Jermell Charlo for example he should have faced the WBO champ to unify all the belts, but that is a Golden Boy fighter. (His mandatory is another PBC fighter, so what is taking so long?)
Jermall Charlo has been trying to face GGG, Canelo, Munguia (has been rank #1 by the WBC for a while now)
They made Wilder vs Fury twice (got delayed the 2nd time after he signed with Top Rank)
We could have had Wilder vs Whyte if they put Joshua on the contract too years ago.
You could go back to Stevenson vs Kovalev when they asked to push up the pursed bid to make the fight happen and were guaranteed a 50/50 split for both sides (those articles were posted and written on this site).
They made Loma vs Gary Russell with no problem.
Joshua fought Andy Ruiz (Joshua won his first title against PBC fighter)
John Riel Casimero has been calling out Inoue for a long time, why not make that fight in the future?
If the money is not there for both sides then the fight will not happen. Lets stop acting like it is one promoter or organization that is doing it.
This is why guys like Gary Russell and Haney can't get fights.
Propaganda has been repeatedly exposed, but yet you continue?
As i say, the PBC cult are nothing but pathological liars and extremists.
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Originally posted by Bronx2245 View PostYou're making excuses, Haymon is making fights! Joshua's debut in the USA is with a Haymon fighter! Fury's comeback is with a Haymon fighter! GGG needed Jacobs, because he was fighting garbage! Cotto needed Floyd! Floyd didn't need Cotto! Canelo needed Floyd, Floyd didn't need Canelo! Where did Manny go when he left TR? Where did Mikey go when he left TR? Where's Rigo right now? Who is Ryan Garcia calling for right now? Who called Ryan Garcia before his Campbell fight? You're on here protecting a man whose office was raided by the FBI! You're on here protecting a man who is disrespecting his top fighter (Crawford) in the media right now! Why?
Jacobs was with Matchroom. That's why he got the fight. Not Haymon.
Floyd took Cotto and Canelo because they were ripe for the picking the way Floyd liked. Nothing else. Only when big guarantees for the victory are in place do they make moves.
Where else was Manny going to go to get Welter's? Use your head. Manny knew Haymon would block those fights otherwise. He was hoping Manny was far too gone for Thurman to take advantage. Oops again.
How many fights did Mikey have with PBC? He's now with DAZN. Mikey was there only because... Yep, you've guest it. Just the way PBC like it to be.
Who cares about the rest of the slops in your post. Haymon is hoping to catch Rigo at this late stage so he can fake a star like he does. Sorry, but he doesn't create stars, just frauds and cowards who stack the deck.
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Originally posted by Bronx2245 View PostOscar, Floyd, Cotto, Gamboa, Rigo, Mikey, Manny, and now he's "tired of losing money on Terence Crawford," but maybe it's just me? Maybe i'm just picking on Arum because I have a crush on Al Haymon? Lol!
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