How can people seriously believe Pacquiao is greater than Floyd

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  • Roadblock
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    #251
    Originally posted by m00ks
    Comparable opponents and quality of wins at WW+.
    When you factor in:
    - natural weight
    - Manny’s accomplishments below 135
    - rematches, trilogies and tetralogies against HOFers, Manny blows 50-0 out of the water.
    Factor in if they fought every day of the week Floyd from 130 to 154 beats his loser ass every day of the week, 8 losses and 25 excuses don't make the grade, Floyd would go through Mannys resume with ease and be undefeated how he went through his own, Manny gets 8 losses and 25 excuses lol.

    Gee if loser Manny fought Floyds resume same conditions as Floyd did Manny would end up with around 12 losses.

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    • whirlwind
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      #252
      Originally posted by LeOoze
      note: im not talking about who's the bigger draw, who has more fans, more ppv (although they all belong to floyd). im just talking about what they achieved in the ring.

      i enjoy watching both floyd and pacquiao fights. i prefer how floyd fights more, but im trying to be objective.

      First off, Floyd has been "the man" in 4 weight classes, and Pac has only been "the man" in 3 weight classes even though he's an 8 belt title holder.

      I look through both of their resumes, and Floyd beating a prime Castillo, prime Hatton, 154 De La Hoya, prime Canelo is better than most if not all of Pacquiao's resume.

      it's funny how a lot of floyd haters say that floyd waited for his opponents past his prime, but manny's claim to fame was beating past prime fighters like barrera, and morales who beat his ass first time they fought.


      manny has fought a lot of fighters coming off of a loss. Floyd sometimes did it in the past (Judah comes to mind), but he has also beaten a lot of boxers after their best performance.

      manny has also been knocked out twice early when he was 17 and 20. now i can understand why people don't really count these losses, as he wasn't in his "prime" yet, but let's be real. imagine if floyd got knocked out once early in his career? floyd haters would be bringing that up nonstop.

      oh, and Floyd beat Manny quite easily in their fight. that's what's most confusing. If floyd and manny fought MAYBE, i can see why people debate this. but they literally fought and manny got schooled lol.

      im down for debate, what are the reasons why manny supposedly has a better resume?
      Your opinion worth nothing in comparison to great boxers like Hopkins, Tyson and others who has Pac above Floyd. Boxing commentators and analysts who has Pac above Floyd and many more credible personalities unlike the Floyd'lovers.

      You can shout-out your opinion although nobody cares about it.
      Last edited by whirlwind; 08-24-2021, 05:38 PM.

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      • LeOoze
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        #253
        Originally posted by m00ks
        Comparable opponents and quality of wins at WW+.
        When you factor in:
        - natural weight
        - Manny’s accomplishments below 135
        - rematches, trilogies and tetralogies against HOFers, Manny blows 50-0 out of the water.
        lets see here

        manny has been a WW for at least 10 years
        his accomplishments below 135 still aren't better than floyd's
        pointless rematch with barrera. lost first fight with morales, only beat him after he came off a loss from zahir, was washed and weight drained. couldn't ever convincingly beat marquez in any of the 4 fights, got knocked out in the last one, needed a trilogy with Bradley because he couldn't convincingly beat him the first time

        oh and he lost to floyd.

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        • whirlwind
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          #254
          Great boxers currently alive witnessing Pac rose from the bottom has Pac above Floyd. These great boxers can easily see the smoke screen created by Floyd. This guy never fought outside Nevada. Why?

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          • LeOoze
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            #255
            Originally posted by Dobyzhee
            Took on a bigger fighter at 42 on 11 days notice. Was supposed to fight Spence got the bait and switch with Ugas...

            Took the riskier fights for the fans..
            And he lost them!

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            • whirlwind
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              #256
              Originally posted by LeOoze

              lets see here

              manny has been a WW for at least 10 years
              his accomplishments below 135 still aren't better than floyd's
              pointless rematch with barrera. lost first fight with morales, only beat him after he came off a loss from zahir, was washed and weight drained. couldn't ever convincingly beat marquez in any of the 4 fights, got knocked out in the last one, needed a trilogy with Bradley because he couldn't convincingly beat him the first time

              oh and he lost to floyd.
              Floyd fought youtubers and circus clowns while Pac up to this point only fight at championship level. People can see through smoke screen who is coward and courageous.

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                #257
                Originally posted by whirlwind

                Floyd fought youtubers and circus clowns while Pac up to this point only fight at championship level. People can see through smoke screen who is coward and courageous.
                Floyd had retired with not a single defeat on his professional resume. Floyd retired with a win. Pac retired with a loss from a bum Ugas.

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                • aboutfkntime
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                  #258
                  ...






                  1) Mayweather has
                  MULTIPLE wins that are better than anyone on Pacquiao's resume... and that is the main criteria when separating ATG's... that is the deciding factor right there... FACT: Mayweather achieved more than Pacquiao

                  2) Mayweather has a better body-of-work... the dude fought like 25 world champions, most of them CONSECUTIVELY... and yet above 130, Pacquiao only ever fought the best ONCE... and he lost

                  3) Pacquiao lost EIGHT times, multiple times by knockout... Mayweather retired undefeated




                  you pac-tards need to give it up

                  Mayweather > Pacquiao... and it is not even close

                  the funny thing is... neither of them are top 10, and yet you pac-tards somehow insist the Manny is the GOAT ... that tells the whole story right there

                  no boxing historian is having this discussion... only pac-tards are having this discussion... which again, tells the whole story






                  ...

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                  • m00ks
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                    #259
                    Originally posted by LeOoze

                    lets see here

                    manny has been a WW for at least 10 years
                    his accomplishments below 135 still aren't better than floyd's
                    pointless rematch with barrera. lost first fight with morales, only beat him after he came off a loss from zahir, was washed and weight drained. couldn't ever convincingly beat marquez in any of the 4 fights, got knocked out in the last one, needed a trilogy with Bradley because he couldn't convincingly beat him the first time

                    oh and he lost to floyd.
                    WW is still not Manny's weight despite campaigning there at highest level for 10+ years. I think that much is obvious.
                    Morales-Barrera-JMM x 9 + lineal superbantam + lineal FLYweight isn't better than Castillo/Corales wins (?)
                    Point is he fought HOF multiple times. I bet Floyd eventually gets slept by Pac or Canelo if they fought 3-4 times but we'll never know since fighting them once is good enough for his fans. He's just as scared of the L as all of them. And just as insecure.


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                    • sargo
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                      #260
                      De la Hoya also now belongs to the people who call Manny GOAT.

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rxipndAm7I

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                      Last edited by sargo; 08-24-2021, 07:26 PM.

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