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Okay Gentlemen, Ladies - and of course those identifying otherwise - it's that time of year again...
After a rather strange but ultimately terrific Pick Em in 2020 it's time to put the old behind us and look forward to 2021 with a brand new and improved Pick Em Masterthread. Hopefully we'll have all our old players returning and add some new recruits to our number too... for those of you familiar with the game and the rules you already know what my long winded old ass is like so please bear with me, for any new players the following paragraphs and this post will constitute both a background to the game, the rankings table and the definitive rules under which the game is played. You can probably participate without reading further, but if you're interested in how the Pick Em works and some of the background of how it's developed over the years you might find some of the following material of interest.
So what is the PICK EM? In it's essence it's a prediction league. A year long competition where every week or two we put our knowledge to the test by predicting the outcomes of one or more boxing matches, and score points based upon the accuracy of our predictions. We accumulate the points and over time we come to see which of us are best able to reliably predict fights and those people go on to achieve eternal glory and bragging rights in the NSB PICK EM Hall of Fame (under construction
)... oh... and possibly win a few $100 too...
The NSB Pick Em's been running since 2017 when legendary 2017 POTY BrometheusBob decided to purloin the concept from a rival website - for which we will all be eternally thankful (cheers Bob
), but in early 2018 was taken over by a loose team of enthusiastic players - the self described PICK EM CREW - dedicated to keeping it running after real life compelled Bob to pay some attention to it. At this point it moved away from the original polled concept to the more labout intensive post-a-pick method that's till used today in order to keep the number of casual players to a managable number.
The 2021 CREW consists of 3 - or possibly 4 members - down from 5 in 2019. Of the 2020 CREW; Citizen Koba and NC Uppercut remain for sure and maybe CauliflowerEars too but it appears we have lost 2018 Champion otrocubiche for good and possibly HeadBodyBodyBody too as neither have been active on the site in many months. Sadly missed and sending best wishes to both in whatever they are doing now. New for 2021 we're adding veteran player Mammoth to the team primarily for his opinions on fight selection and other aspects of game management. Welcome aboard, man.
The game is open to all posters whatever your reputation or post count, is hopefully simple enough to pick up and for most of us at least adds an extra bit of fun to the fights as well. Maybe it even helps us to test and improve our knowledge of the sweet science and the men who put their health on the line, week in, week out, for our entertainment.
Details on how to make your picks are laid out below and will also be repeated in each Pick 'em thread throughout the year, but essentially follows the format of choosing Winner, method (KO or DEC) and detail ie how close a dec is or when a KO will happen.
For those familiar with the game from previous years there are a couple of changes to be aware of, although they are significant they are also incremental and don't in anyway change the fundamental nature or mechanics of the competition and so should be easy to adapt to.
The changes that are being implemented for this year have been discussed in some detail in the pre season discussion thread for those who really are interested in how these changes were decided upon:
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=863292
Firstly - and most significantly - an additional type of DECISION pick has been incorporated to bring the number of decision picks into line with the number of KO picks. It's a logical move which has been some years coming since the original 5 pick types for each winner were constrained by the original 2017 Pick Ems polled model which only allowed for 10 options rather than the 12 this change implements
Secondly the new x5 multiplier proved to be a hit in 2020 and has been developed somewhat... moving away frpom the original concept as just a one use 'hail Mary' of which players would never have more than one in their stash for 2021 each player now begins the year with 3 x5 multipliers which can be used at any point in the year provided they fulfil the requirement of being played only on the Bookies Underdog.
In terms of fight selection obviously COVID threw something of a spanner in the works for 2020 - whilst it did make for an interestimng change of pace (which I personally found kinda fun) and we got to see many lower ranked bouts included in the Pick Em than we have in previous years, the general sentiment was that we ended up with maybe more fights in the Pick Em than many players would have prefered. So for 2021 we'll be looking to return more to the pace and quality of fights we had in 2019 where possible - and of course understanding that the continuing pandemic is likely to make some compromises likely.
In general all title fights between fighters ranked in the top 10 per TBRB will be included plus any non-title fights of particular fan interest. Fights with guys in the top few places of the P4P rankings will also generally be included even when (as often happens) they are a prohibitive favourite. Should the WBSS introduce a new season during the course of 2021 we will make every effort to include the fights from that competition or indeed those from any event of similar ambition that should occur during the year.
In addition - as mentioned below - efforts will be made to give the players some say in which fights are chosen each month... generally through some type of polling or canvassing system, to try to ensure we're staying fairly close to the pace and game style that suits most of you.
So following that lengthy introduction it's down to business I guess. The following table will be kept up to date as best possible as the standard reference to the points and rankings of all the players in the 2021 Pick Em and should also be used to keep track of remaining multipliers and other relevent statistics. Inevitably there will be times when we (I) fall behind with the updating, for which I humbly beg your patience in advance:
NSB PICK EM 2021 FINAL RANKINGS (21/12/31)
Note on Rankings: PICK EM players with the same number of overall points will now be ordered firstly by % of correct picks and then by the number of perfect picks they have achieved. In the event that any of the three highrest ranked players at the end of the year have the same number of overall points the same rule will apply and prizes awarded accordingly. In the event that any of the top ranked players cannot be seperated by % or Perfect picks the player with the fewest number of total picks shall break the tie. Further differentiation can be obtained by (in order) longest streak, current streak, remaining x5, remaining x3, remaining x2 should it prove necessary...
PLACEHOLDER FOR COMPLETED PICK EM DETAILS
2021 Pick Em Prizes:
(in case the eternal admiration of your fellow posters just ain't enough for you)
Winner: $300 payable by paypal
1st Runner Up: $150 payable by paypal
2nd Runner Up: $50 payable by paypal
All prizes provided courtesy of Boxing Scene.
Players wishing to be involved in a Boxing Scene points based sweepstakes are invited to do so either the by PM or by making your interest known in the thread below.
NSB PICK EM CHAMPION 2020
asgarth
Previous winners:
2019 - Baltimore
2018 - otrocubiche
2017 - RockyB
Ground rules:
- Prior to each fight, a new thread will be made for the purpose of allowing people to record their predictions. Each thread will include a minimum of one fight but may include several. where more than one fight is included every effort will be made to sequence the games firstly by universal time zone (UTC) then by running order, ending with the main event in that time zone.
- Predictions must be made prior to the start of the fight. the opening bell of the bout shall be the cut-off point for allowable picks or modifications to picks. Whilst every effort will be made to notify the players in the thread at the moment of the cut off, if this is not possible other resources will be used to establish this moment as accurately as possible in the event of any dispute.
- You do not need to make a prediction for every fight to stay in the game, but obviously you will receive no points if you do not pick.
TERMINOLOGY
RESULT METHOD
KO = Will cover all type of stoppage wins - TKO, KO, DQ
DECISION = Will cover all type of decision wins - UD, MD, SD, TD
DRAW = If you believe the fighters are so evenly matched that a DRAW outcome is a reasonable possibility you may forego picking a winner and instead pick DRAW.
RESULT DETAIL
If you picked KO, either EARLY (1-4), MID (5-8) or LATE 9-12. (Or 1-3, 4-6, 7-10 for a 10 rounder).
If you picked DEC, either 'CLOSE', 'CLEAR' or 'WIDE'.
CLOSE = Total score difference is 6 points or fewer
eg. 115-113 on all three cards or closer. 115 - 113, 116 - 112, 114 - 114
CLEAR = Total score difference between 7 and 18 points.
eg. 117 - 111, 116 - 112, 116 - 112
WIDE = Total score difference of 19 points or greater
eg. Wider than 117-111 on all three cards
If the fight is a 10 round fight or ends in a technical decision, the cutoff lines of 6 pts and 18 points are scaled down to the number of rounds fought so that CLOSE is ≤0.5R and WIDE is >1.5R where R is the number of rounds fought
eg WIDE for a 10 round fight will be equal to or wider than 97-93, 98-92, 98-92.
In the event of a fight being Cancelled, No Decisions, No Contests or Technical Draws under 4 rounds (under those jurisdictions which use such rulings) the Pick Em will be declared null. Multipliers will not have been considered used and the fight will not be counted with regards to the number of picks made or accuracy percentage stistics although for the purposes of assigning numbers to the Pick Ems the bout will still be included.
MULTIPLIERS
Every player will have the option to use multipliers throughout the game when they feel especially confident of their prediction. It can also allow players who joined late an opportunity to get in the game by scoring a big pick.
2X = Get twice as many points for this prediction. You will receive ten of these at the start of the year to use at will on any fight you choose throughout the year.
3X = Get triple as many points for this prediction. You will begin the game with six of these at the start of the year to use at will on any fight you choose throughout the year.
5x = get five times the regular score for this prediction. This special Hail Mary pick will earn five times regular points but can only be used on a fighter whose official PICK EM ODDS exceed +100 (EVENS) ie: an underdog. In the event that no official odds are provided for a fight the PICK EM CREW may nominate one of the fighters as a provisional underdog in expectation of the odds affirming this. If no odds are available and neither fighter has been nominated as n underdog in the OP of a Pick Em thrread then a x5 may not be used on that fight.
All players will begin the game with 3 x5 multipliers which can be used at any time in the year providing the above stipulations are met.
ODDS
Every effort will be made to obtain accurate odds for each fight in the PICK EM based on an average of odds from a number of different bookmakers on the comparison site Oddschecker. The time point will be the point at which the thread is first posted unless no odds are available at that time. Whilst we will make every effort to ensure that the odds are accurate at the time they are posted they will reflect the CREWs own final decision and cannot be overuled by reference to any external site or source, although they may legitimately be challenged if a poster has strong reason to believe they have not been calculated accurately. In any event any objections must be raised prior to the fight date and any decsion or ruling of the CREW on such a dispute will be final.
SCORING
After each fight, your score for that fight will be calculated as follows:
Correct Fighter = 20 pts
Correct Method = 10 pts
Correct Detail = 10 pts
Wrong Fighter = 0 pts
Draw = If you correctly pick a draw, you will win 150 pts. Everyone else will get 0.
The total of above results in your BASE SCORE. Your BASE SCORE for a fight will multiplied by all applicable multipliers / bonuses. If more than one multiplier is applicable to your score the multipliers will be added together before being applied, ie: a x4 underdog multiplier combined with a x3 optional multiplier will result in your score being multiplied by x7 not by x12.
Bonus multipliers will be made available for fights with a +300 (4/1) or wider favorite. The amount of the multiplier can be found by reference to the list below:
In all cases we reserve the right to make exceptions to the above and will be monitoring the underdog multiplier during the year to check that play balance is not adversely effected.
Other Details
Communications
In an effort to improve notifications, reminders and player participation in decisions involving the game we are planning to invite all players to become 'friends' with the PICK EM account. If you haven't received a friend request from the CREW with a week or two of your first PICK EM game, please either contact one of the CREW or invite the PICK EM crew to befriend your user account. We may also be trying to activate the PICK EM CREW social group obver the cours eof the year and will provide details of that as and when we figure out just what we can use it for...
Fight Selection - UPCOMING PICK EM threads
In an effort to continually ensure we are offering the fights most players want to see, and to give players the opportunoity to do research on fights or even provide advance absentee picks it is our intent to post a thread towards the nd of each month specifying which fights we intent to include in the game for the following month. The formula we used last year offered several fights that were definitely to be included but then also offered a pol for players to indicate which - if any - of a number of perhaps less high profile fights they would like to see in the game that month. On the occasions we actually manged to put up such thread I beleive they met with considerable player approval so the goal is to extend the same formula to every month (from Feburary) this year.
Previous PICK EM threads.
Just for posterity and the terminally curious the masterthreads for the last 4 years' PICK EMs are linked below. In them you can quite clearly track the evolution of the game and follow the often involved discussion of when and why we made all the choices we did. If nothing else it's just cos that ish represents literally hundreds of hours of work and I just can't bear just yet for it to disappear without a final farewell.
2020:
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=837530
2019:
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=804370
2018:
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=774031
2017:
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=731902
List of Active Players
Note: this is not an exhaustive list but based on the 2nd January 2021 Pick Em. Names will be added as new players make Picks and are added to the leaderboard if you want your name adding (or removing) please let me or one of the other CREW know either in the thread or by PM.
alexnation asgarth Baltimore BigZ44 BLASTER1 BobLoblaw BrometheusBob Chrismart Dodger07 Eff Pandas FinitoxDinamita Ganondorf Idunnoshet Jracula keithj Kezzer kingCal koolkc107 kushking Mammoth mlac NC Uppercut RJJ-94-02=GOAT RoadMan94 Robbie Barrett Rockin' ruedboy Sadiqkingofko SceneBoxer Sheppirino ShoulderRoll SN!PER SUBZER0ED Szef Tatabanya TonyMontana YoungManRumble b morph Damn Wicked JRB123 Marchegiano Pittsburgh_Kid
Hmmm. Okay I think that about covers things - although I'm quite sure this page will go through interminable revisions throughout the year as it has done in past years.
Now if I could once again thank the mods for their patience over the last few years with my constant badgering for modifications and correction to thread titles and stuff, and ask if you could please sticky this new Masterthread and remove the 2020 Masterthread and the 2021 Ideas and discussion thread it'd be greatly appreciated
BostonGuy, TBear, jaded, LoadedWraps, bigjavi973
Finally a warm welcome back to all our 2020 players and anyone who's returning from previous years and of course the same goes to any new players who are joining us in 2021... hope you all have as much fun with this as I do, and best of luck to all of you throughout the year. 2020 will be hard to beat with it's epic finish, but I reckon we can give it a shot... let's make 2021 the very best year yet gents.
Kind regards to you all
Koba
After a rather strange but ultimately terrific Pick Em in 2020 it's time to put the old behind us and look forward to 2021 with a brand new and improved Pick Em Masterthread. Hopefully we'll have all our old players returning and add some new recruits to our number too... for those of you familiar with the game and the rules you already know what my long winded old ass is like so please bear with me, for any new players the following paragraphs and this post will constitute both a background to the game, the rankings table and the definitive rules under which the game is played. You can probably participate without reading further, but if you're interested in how the Pick Em works and some of the background of how it's developed over the years you might find some of the following material of interest.
So what is the PICK EM? In it's essence it's a prediction league. A year long competition where every week or two we put our knowledge to the test by predicting the outcomes of one or more boxing matches, and score points based upon the accuracy of our predictions. We accumulate the points and over time we come to see which of us are best able to reliably predict fights and those people go on to achieve eternal glory and bragging rights in the NSB PICK EM Hall of Fame (under construction
)... oh... and possibly win a few $100 too...The NSB Pick Em's been running since 2017 when legendary 2017 POTY BrometheusBob decided to purloin the concept from a rival website - for which we will all be eternally thankful (cheers Bob
), but in early 2018 was taken over by a loose team of enthusiastic players - the self described PICK EM CREW - dedicated to keeping it running after real life compelled Bob to pay some attention to it. At this point it moved away from the original polled concept to the more labout intensive post-a-pick method that's till used today in order to keep the number of casual players to a managable number.The 2021 CREW consists of 3 - or possibly 4 members - down from 5 in 2019. Of the 2020 CREW; Citizen Koba and NC Uppercut remain for sure and maybe CauliflowerEars too but it appears we have lost 2018 Champion otrocubiche for good and possibly HeadBodyBodyBody too as neither have been active on the site in many months. Sadly missed and sending best wishes to both in whatever they are doing now. New for 2021 we're adding veteran player Mammoth to the team primarily for his opinions on fight selection and other aspects of game management. Welcome aboard, man.
The game is open to all posters whatever your reputation or post count, is hopefully simple enough to pick up and for most of us at least adds an extra bit of fun to the fights as well. Maybe it even helps us to test and improve our knowledge of the sweet science and the men who put their health on the line, week in, week out, for our entertainment.
Details on how to make your picks are laid out below and will also be repeated in each Pick 'em thread throughout the year, but essentially follows the format of choosing Winner, method (KO or DEC) and detail ie how close a dec is or when a KO will happen.
For those familiar with the game from previous years there are a couple of changes to be aware of, although they are significant they are also incremental and don't in anyway change the fundamental nature or mechanics of the competition and so should be easy to adapt to.
The changes that are being implemented for this year have been discussed in some detail in the pre season discussion thread for those who really are interested in how these changes were decided upon:
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=863292
Firstly - and most significantly - an additional type of DECISION pick has been incorporated to bring the number of decision picks into line with the number of KO picks. It's a logical move which has been some years coming since the original 5 pick types for each winner were constrained by the original 2017 Pick Ems polled model which only allowed for 10 options rather than the 12 this change implements
Secondly the new x5 multiplier proved to be a hit in 2020 and has been developed somewhat... moving away frpom the original concept as just a one use 'hail Mary' of which players would never have more than one in their stash for 2021 each player now begins the year with 3 x5 multipliers which can be used at any point in the year provided they fulfil the requirement of being played only on the Bookies Underdog.
In terms of fight selection obviously COVID threw something of a spanner in the works for 2020 - whilst it did make for an interestimng change of pace (which I personally found kinda fun) and we got to see many lower ranked bouts included in the Pick Em than we have in previous years, the general sentiment was that we ended up with maybe more fights in the Pick Em than many players would have prefered. So for 2021 we'll be looking to return more to the pace and quality of fights we had in 2019 where possible - and of course understanding that the continuing pandemic is likely to make some compromises likely.
In general all title fights between fighters ranked in the top 10 per TBRB will be included plus any non-title fights of particular fan interest. Fights with guys in the top few places of the P4P rankings will also generally be included even when (as often happens) they are a prohibitive favourite. Should the WBSS introduce a new season during the course of 2021 we will make every effort to include the fights from that competition or indeed those from any event of similar ambition that should occur during the year.
In addition - as mentioned below - efforts will be made to give the players some say in which fights are chosen each month... generally through some type of polling or canvassing system, to try to ensure we're staying fairly close to the pace and game style that suits most of you.
So following that lengthy introduction it's down to business I guess. The following table will be kept up to date as best possible as the standard reference to the points and rankings of all the players in the 2021 Pick Em and should also be used to keep track of remaining multipliers and other relevent statistics. Inevitably there will be times when we (I) fall behind with the updating, for which I humbly beg your patience in advance:
NSB PICK EM 2021 FINAL RANKINGS (21/12/31)
| NSB PICK EM 2021 FINAL RANKINGS (21/12/31) | |||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Name | Points | Total | Correct | Perfect | % | Streak | Longest | 2X | 3X | 5X | |
| keithj | 3200 | 115 | 81 | 21 | 70 | 6 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| YoungManRumble | 3190 | 115 | 81 | 32 | 70 | 20 | 20 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| ruedboy | 3180 | 115 | 86 | 26 | 75 | 6 | 13 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| mlac | 3150 | 114 | 84 | 17 | 74 | 6 | 13 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| ShoulderRoll | 3140 | 113 | 81 | 19 | 72 | 5 | 12 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| Koba | 3010 | 112 | 79 | 24 | 71 | 1 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| SUBZEROED | 2970 | 111 | 78 | 24 | 70 | 5 | 12 | 1 | 0 | 0 | |
| DamnWicked | 2940 | 108 | 78 | 17 | 72 | 1 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| Chrismart | 2900 | 113 | 83 | 20 | 73 | 4 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 1 | |
| Idunnoshet | 2860 | 112 | 83 | 16 | 74 | 0 | 13 | 0 | 0 | 1 | |
| Baltimore | 2820 | 110 | 79 | 20 | 72 | 1 | 19 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| BLASTER1 | 2800 | 110 | 75 | 20 | 68 | 6 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| Mammoth | 2690 | 108 | 75 | 22 | 69 | 5 | 8 | 3 | 0 | 0 | |
| asgarth | 2690 | 106 | 72 | 23 | 68 | 1 | 7 | 2 | 0 | 0 | |
| BigZ44 | 2580 | 94 | 67 | 14 | 71 | 6 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| SceneBoxer | 2540 | 114 | 70 | 16 | 61 | 0 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| NCUppercut | 2520 | 112 | 68 | 15 | 61 | 5 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| Koolkc107 | 2430 | 107 | 69 | 19 | 64 | 3 | 8 | 1 | 1 | 0 | |
| Mathed | 2420 | 86 | 63 | 11 | 73 | 3 | 17 | 0 | 1 | 0 | |
| Tatabanya | 2350 | 115 | 68 | 21 | 59 | 1 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| BobLobLaw | 2320 | 102 | 74 | 14 | 73 | 10 | 12 | 8 | 4 | 0 | |
| Ganondorf | 2320 | 104 | 70 | 18 | 67 | 0 | 14 | 7 | 4 | 0 | |
| RJJ-94-02=GOAT | 2040 | 97 | 57 | 11 | 59 | 1 | 7 | 2 | 0 | 0 | |
| Satir | 2030 | 64 | 49 | 12 | 77 | 6 | 13 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| Kushking | 1730 | 62 | 39 | 5 | 63 | 0 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| Sadiqkingofko | 1110 | 57 | 33 | 10 | 58 | 1 | 7 | 8 | 2 | 1 | |
| PBRStreetgang | 860 | 36 | 26 | 8 | 72 | 3 | 7 | 9 | 5 | 3 | |
| Kezzer | 840 | 40 | 24 | 9 | 60 | 1 | 6 | 8 | 4 | 2 | |
| EffPandas | 570 | 20 | 14 | 1 | 70 | 6 | 6 | 9 | 2 | 3 | |
| BMorph | 470 | 25 | 14 | 0 | 56 | 1 | 4 | 6 | 3 | 2 | |
| Sheppirino | 340 | 18 | 10 | 1 | 56 | 0 | 4 | 8 | 6 | 3 | |
| Rockin | 340 | 19 | 9 | 3 | 47 | 0 | 4 | 9 | 5 | 1 | |
| jas | 250 | 8 | 6 | 2 | 75 | 4 | 4 | 10 | 5 | 3 | |
| Ccarroll2133 | 240 | 8 | 4 | 1 | 50 | 0 | 3 | 10 | 4 | 2 | |
| OnlytheTruth | 170 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 100 | 2 | 2 | 9 | 5 | 3 | |
| alexnation | 160 | 5 | 3 | 0 | 60 | 2 | 2 | 7 | 5 | 3 | |
| KingCal | 140 | 11 | 4 | 0 | 36 | 1 | 2 | 10 | 5 | 3 | |
| eco1 | 130 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 100 | 4 | 4 | 10 | 6 | 3 | |
| boxinglife | 130 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 75 | 2 | 2 | 9 | 6 | 3 | |
| Marchegiano | 110 | 7 | 3 | 0 | 43 | 0 | 2 | 10 | 4 | 2 | |
| RobbieBarrett | 100 | 7 | 3 | 1 | 43 | 1 | 2 | 10 | 6 | 3 | |
| HandsofIron | 90 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 100 | 1 | 1 | 10 | 5 | 3 | |
| FinitoxDinamita | 80 | 7 | 2 | 2 | 29 | 0 | 1 | 9 | 5 | 2 | |
| DrZ | 60 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 100 | 2 | 2 | 10 | 6 | 3 | |
| BrometheusBob | 60 | 6 | 2 | 0 | 33 | 1 | 1 | 10 | 6 | 3 | |
| SNIPER | 60 | 6 | 2 | 0 | 33 | 0 | 1 | 10 | 6 | 2 | |
| JRB123 | 40 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 100 | 2 | 2 | 10 | 6 | 3 | |
| Nana0427 | 30 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 100 | 1 | 1 | 10 | 6 | 3 | |
| Pittsburgh_Kid | 30 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 50 | 1 | 1 | 10 | 6 | 3 | |
| Bphontain | 20 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 100 | 1 | 1 | 10 | 6 | 3 | |
| Dodger07 | 20 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 50 | 1 | 1 | 10 | 6 | 3 | |
| SilverMiles | 20 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 50 | 1 | 1 | 10 | 6 | 2 | |
| Jracula | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 10 | 6 | 3 | |
| MusoMeanderings | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 10 | 6 | 2 | |
| RoadMan94 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 9 | 6 | 2 | |
| Szef | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 10 | 6 | 2 | |
| TonyMontana | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 10 | 6 | 3 | |
Note on Rankings: PICK EM players with the same number of overall points will now be ordered firstly by % of correct picks and then by the number of perfect picks they have achieved. In the event that any of the three highrest ranked players at the end of the year have the same number of overall points the same rule will apply and prizes awarded accordingly. In the event that any of the top ranked players cannot be seperated by % or Perfect picks the player with the fewest number of total picks shall break the tie. Further differentiation can be obtained by (in order) longest streak, current streak, remaining x5, remaining x3, remaining x2 should it prove necessary...
PLACEHOLDER FOR COMPLETED PICK EM DETAILS
2021 Pick Em Prizes:
(in case the eternal admiration of your fellow posters just ain't enough for you)
Winner: $300 payable by paypal
1st Runner Up: $150 payable by paypal
2nd Runner Up: $50 payable by paypal
All prizes provided courtesy of Boxing Scene.
Players wishing to be involved in a Boxing Scene points based sweepstakes are invited to do so either the by PM or by making your interest known in the thread below.
NSB PICK EM CHAMPION 2020
asgarth
Previous winners:
2019 - Baltimore
2018 - otrocubiche
2017 - RockyB
Ground rules:
- Prior to each fight, a new thread will be made for the purpose of allowing people to record their predictions. Each thread will include a minimum of one fight but may include several. where more than one fight is included every effort will be made to sequence the games firstly by universal time zone (UTC) then by running order, ending with the main event in that time zone.
- Predictions must be made prior to the start of the fight. the opening bell of the bout shall be the cut-off point for allowable picks or modifications to picks. Whilst every effort will be made to notify the players in the thread at the moment of the cut off, if this is not possible other resources will be used to establish this moment as accurately as possible in the event of any dispute.
- You do not need to make a prediction for every fight to stay in the game, but obviously you will receive no points if you do not pick.
TERMINOLOGY
RESULT METHOD
KO = Will cover all type of stoppage wins - TKO, KO, DQ
DECISION = Will cover all type of decision wins - UD, MD, SD, TD
DRAW = If you believe the fighters are so evenly matched that a DRAW outcome is a reasonable possibility you may forego picking a winner and instead pick DRAW.
RESULT DETAIL
If you picked KO, either EARLY (1-4), MID (5-8) or LATE 9-12. (Or 1-3, 4-6, 7-10 for a 10 rounder).
If you picked DEC, either 'CLOSE', 'CLEAR' or 'WIDE'.
CLOSE = Total score difference is 6 points or fewer
eg. 115-113 on all three cards or closer. 115 - 113, 116 - 112, 114 - 114
CLEAR = Total score difference between 7 and 18 points.
eg. 117 - 111, 116 - 112, 116 - 112
WIDE = Total score difference of 19 points or greater
eg. Wider than 117-111 on all three cards
If the fight is a 10 round fight or ends in a technical decision, the cutoff lines of 6 pts and 18 points are scaled down to the number of rounds fought so that CLOSE is ≤0.5R and WIDE is >1.5R where R is the number of rounds fought
eg WIDE for a 10 round fight will be equal to or wider than 97-93, 98-92, 98-92.
In the event of a fight being Cancelled, No Decisions, No Contests or Technical Draws under 4 rounds (under those jurisdictions which use such rulings) the Pick Em will be declared null. Multipliers will not have been considered used and the fight will not be counted with regards to the number of picks made or accuracy percentage stistics although for the purposes of assigning numbers to the Pick Ems the bout will still be included.
MULTIPLIERS
Every player will have the option to use multipliers throughout the game when they feel especially confident of their prediction. It can also allow players who joined late an opportunity to get in the game by scoring a big pick.
2X = Get twice as many points for this prediction. You will receive ten of these at the start of the year to use at will on any fight you choose throughout the year.
3X = Get triple as many points for this prediction. You will begin the game with six of these at the start of the year to use at will on any fight you choose throughout the year.
5x = get five times the regular score for this prediction. This special Hail Mary pick will earn five times regular points but can only be used on a fighter whose official PICK EM ODDS exceed +100 (EVENS) ie: an underdog. In the event that no official odds are provided for a fight the PICK EM CREW may nominate one of the fighters as a provisional underdog in expectation of the odds affirming this. If no odds are available and neither fighter has been nominated as n underdog in the OP of a Pick Em thrread then a x5 may not be used on that fight.
All players will begin the game with 3 x5 multipliers which can be used at any time in the year providing the above stipulations are met.
ODDS
Every effort will be made to obtain accurate odds for each fight in the PICK EM based on an average of odds from a number of different bookmakers on the comparison site Oddschecker. The time point will be the point at which the thread is first posted unless no odds are available at that time. Whilst we will make every effort to ensure that the odds are accurate at the time they are posted they will reflect the CREWs own final decision and cannot be overuled by reference to any external site or source, although they may legitimately be challenged if a poster has strong reason to believe they have not been calculated accurately. In any event any objections must be raised prior to the fight date and any decsion or ruling of the CREW on such a dispute will be final.
SCORING
After each fight, your score for that fight will be calculated as follows:
Correct Fighter = 20 pts
Correct Method = 10 pts
Correct Detail = 10 pts
Wrong Fighter = 0 pts
Draw = If you correctly pick a draw, you will win 150 pts. Everyone else will get 0.
The total of above results in your BASE SCORE. Your BASE SCORE for a fight will multiplied by all applicable multipliers / bonuses. If more than one multiplier is applicable to your score the multipliers will be added together before being applied, ie: a x4 underdog multiplier combined with a x3 optional multiplier will result in your score being multiplied by x7 not by x12.
Bonus multipliers will be made available for fights with a +300 (4/1) or wider favorite. The amount of the multiplier can be found by reference to the list below:
| Underdog Multipliers | |
| Odds | Multiplier |
| <300 | x1 |
| 300 - 599 | x2 |
| 600 - 999 | x3 |
| 1000+ | x4 |
In all cases we reserve the right to make exceptions to the above and will be monitoring the underdog multiplier during the year to check that play balance is not adversely effected.
Other Details
Score and rankings updates will be made as soon as possible after a fight with the aim of ensuring this occurs within 48 hours... those with experience of previous Pick Ems will know that this in fact rarely happens however...
Rankings will include number of remaining multipliers you have left.
If you attempt to use a multiplier that you do not have, we will use the highest available multiplier that is less than the one you tried to use. For example, if you say 2X without any 2Xs left, we will treat it as a 1X play. If you use a 3X without any 3Xs left, we will try to use a 2X. The x5 Multiplier is not subject to this rule since it's usage conditions make it inherently different to the x2 and x3 multipliers
Rankings will include number of remaining multipliers you have left.
If you attempt to use a multiplier that you do not have, we will use the highest available multiplier that is less than the one you tried to use. For example, if you say 2X without any 2Xs left, we will treat it as a 1X play. If you use a 3X without any 3Xs left, we will try to use a 2X. The x5 Multiplier is not subject to this rule since it's usage conditions make it inherently different to the x2 and x3 multipliers
Communications
In an effort to improve notifications, reminders and player participation in decisions involving the game we are planning to invite all players to become 'friends' with the PICK EM account. If you haven't received a friend request from the CREW with a week or two of your first PICK EM game, please either contact one of the CREW or invite the PICK EM crew to befriend your user account. We may also be trying to activate the PICK EM CREW social group obver the cours eof the year and will provide details of that as and when we figure out just what we can use it for...
Fight Selection - UPCOMING PICK EM threads
In an effort to continually ensure we are offering the fights most players want to see, and to give players the opportunoity to do research on fights or even provide advance absentee picks it is our intent to post a thread towards the nd of each month specifying which fights we intent to include in the game for the following month. The formula we used last year offered several fights that were definitely to be included but then also offered a pol for players to indicate which - if any - of a number of perhaps less high profile fights they would like to see in the game that month. On the occasions we actually manged to put up such thread I beleive they met with considerable player approval so the goal is to extend the same formula to every month (from Feburary) this year.
Previous PICK EM threads.
Just for posterity and the terminally curious the masterthreads for the last 4 years' PICK EMs are linked below. In them you can quite clearly track the evolution of the game and follow the often involved discussion of when and why we made all the choices we did. If nothing else it's just cos that ish represents literally hundreds of hours of work and I just can't bear just yet for it to disappear without a final farewell.
2020:
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=837530
2019:
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=804370
2018:
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=774031
2017:
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=731902
List of Active Players
Note: this is not an exhaustive list but based on the 2nd January 2021 Pick Em. Names will be added as new players make Picks and are added to the leaderboard if you want your name adding (or removing) please let me or one of the other CREW know either in the thread or by PM.
alexnation asgarth Baltimore BigZ44 BLASTER1 BobLoblaw BrometheusBob Chrismart Dodger07 Eff Pandas FinitoxDinamita Ganondorf Idunnoshet Jracula keithj Kezzer kingCal koolkc107 kushking Mammoth mlac NC Uppercut RJJ-94-02=GOAT RoadMan94 Robbie Barrett Rockin' ruedboy Sadiqkingofko SceneBoxer Sheppirino ShoulderRoll SN!PER SUBZER0ED Szef Tatabanya TonyMontana YoungManRumble b morph Damn Wicked JRB123 Marchegiano Pittsburgh_Kid
Hmmm. Okay I think that about covers things - although I'm quite sure this page will go through interminable revisions throughout the year as it has done in past years.
Now if I could once again thank the mods for their patience over the last few years with my constant badgering for modifications and correction to thread titles and stuff, and ask if you could please sticky this new Masterthread and remove the 2020 Masterthread and the 2021 Ideas and discussion thread it'd be greatly appreciated
BostonGuy, TBear, jaded, LoadedWraps, bigjavi973
Finally a warm welcome back to all our 2020 players and anyone who's returning from previous years and of course the same goes to any new players who are joining us in 2021... hope you all have as much fun with this as I do, and best of luck to all of you throughout the year. 2020 will be hard to beat with it's epic finish, but I reckon we can give it a shot... let's make 2021 the very best year yet gents.
Kind regards to you all
Koba
DoomCity202
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