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Originally posted by 1hourRun View PostI'm not particularly informed on what is going on here bro, so I have to reserve any comment regarding this matter. Why was this not address by the media earlier?
But I'll tell you this, I think its foolish to assume that Nevada State Athletic commission and the BBBofC follow the exact same protocols, or that the contracts signed by two separate parties ( Wilder-Fury and Whyte-Rivas ) would be identical.
I doubt, that both situations would be identical, evident in the fact that these 'Fedex-gloves' came from through the mail, in contrast to what I think ( I'm not sure ) that Whyte may have used someone elses gloves? I forget, but common sense is not being applied in your reasoning.
The reason the new gloves weren't inspected by a Rivas rep first was that they were running behind schedule due to Whyte having to attend a NADP hearing immediately before the fight.
No 2 situations are ever identical, but both fights were sanctioned by the WBC, so the protocols wouldn't have been too different.
In any case, the particular aspects of the situations I'm talking about here - gloves switched at the last minute without being first inspected by a member of the opponent's team - are exactly the same in both cases.
At least Rivas's team were informed that the switch had happened. Were Team Fury even told about Wilder's FED EX glove delivery? I doubt it, or they would surely have mentioned it in response to the shit they got for from Wilder fanboys for turning off the TV network camera in Fury's dressing room while he was gloving up.
Russ Anber asked an interesting question in his complaint about Whyte's glove switch ...
"We saw Dillian’s hands wrapped but not the gloves being put on. We couldn't examine the gloves and when we protested we were told ‘too bad’ by the Board officials – effectively they said they weren’t going to make him take his gloves off, they're on already, the fight’s about to start.
Well, it takes 90 seconds at most to put on or take off a pair of gloves. So why not allow us the courtesy of being able to see the gloves?
We filed our protest before we even went into the ring. And can you blame us? I mean, can you imagine if the boot was on the other foot – and such a situation occurred, say, for a British fighter fighting an American in America?"
https://www.boxingscene.com/team-riv...-fight--141197
Well, at least we now know the answer to Russ's question.
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Originally posted by 5000boxing View PostYea.. Breland was suspect.. That's all I ever heard Wilder say.. He will go out on his shield.. He would rather die than throw in the towel.. Breland let Wilder fight thru that ortiz 7 rd scare.. I honestly think he got the signal to throw in the towel bc Fury was outta gas! I think Breland cracked under the pressure from Arum and Warren.
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Originally posted by kafkod View PostWhat happened in Whyte's case, as per Eddie Hearm, was that his first choice gloves had been wrongly allocated to another fighter earlier in the night, and his back-up pair didn't feel right when he tried them on, so he asked permission to use another pair, which were provided by the BBBoC and checked and signed off by a WBC inspector.
The reason the new gloves weren't inspected by a Rivas rep first was that they were running behind schedule due to Whyte having to attend a NADP hearing immediately before the fight.
No 2 situations are ever identical, but both fights were sanctioned by the WBC, so the protocols wouldn't have been too different.
In any case, the particular aspects of the situations I'm talking about here - gloves switched at the last minute without being first inspected by a member of the opponent's team - are exactly the same in both cases.
At least Rivas's team were informed that the switch had happened. Were Team Fury even told about Wilder's FED EX glove delivery? I doubt it, or they would surely have mentioned it in response to the shit they got for from Wilder fanboys for turning off the TV network camera in Fury's dressing room while he was gloving up.
Russ Anber asked an interesting question in his complaint about Whyte's glove switch ...
"We saw Dillian’s hands wrapped but not the gloves being put on. We couldn't examine the gloves and when we protested we were told ‘too bad’ by the Board officials – effectively they said they weren’t going to make him take his gloves off, they're on already, the fight’s about to start.
Well, it takes 90 seconds at most to put on or take off a pair of gloves. So why not allow us the courtesy of being able to see the gloves?
We filed our protest before we even went into the ring. And can you blame us? I mean, can you imagine if the boot was on the other foot – and such a situation occurred, say, for a British fighter fighting an American in America?"
https://www.boxingscene.com/team-riv...-fight--141197
Well, at least we now know the answer to Russ's question.
I have no issue with that. However, I think its funny that you all are conceding that their is a possibility of foul play now, when it suits you. I think the 'Glove-gate' community will take this as a win, contrary to what the 'Fury-Faithful' aimed to achieve.
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Originally posted by 1hourRun View PostSo I guess what you are trying to say is that you suspect foul play now that the shoe is on the other foot? However earlier, when it was Tyson Fury on the end of scrutiny, due to viral conspiracy videos ( Glove-gate ) '' The commission did its job ''. Is that whats going on here?
I have no issue with that. However, I think its funny that you all are conceding that their is a possibility of foul play now, when it suits you. I think the 'Glove-gate' community will take this as a win, contrary to what the 'Fury-Faithful' aimed to achieve.
I'm just pointing out the double standards of people who condemned Eddie Hearn and the BBBoC so vehemently for allowing a UK fighter to wear gloves that hadn't been inspected by a visiting opponent's team, but have a "nothing to see here" attitude when, as Russ Anber put it, the boot is on the other foot.
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Originally posted by 5000boxing View PostLmao!!! You can't freeze out Al Haymon u twat! One out of 3 things are happening.. 1.) Wilder vs Fury 3 is happening!!... Or 2.) Fury will retire or 3.) Fury will vacate and get sued! then try an fight AJ for the WBA, and IBF.. Because the WBO will go to Uysk vs #2 winner.
-I have spoken.
Either Fury fights 'easy' Wilder or Fury has to pay Wilder if Fury fights someone else.
Or Fury retires. Again. Just like he did with Klitschko.
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Originally posted by davefromvancouv View PostExactly. I've been saying this from the beginning.
Either Fury fights 'easy' Wilder or Fury has to pay Wilder if Fury fights someone else.
Or Fury retires. Again. Just like he did with Klitschko.
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Originally posted by REDEEMER View PostAn expired contract does not retire a fighter . Ha
If the outcome of that mediation requires Fury to honor his contract, which states that there be a rematch clause, Fury has a decision to make: either fight Wilder, fight someone else and risk being sued by Wilder or retire.
You would think the easiest option would be to fight Wilder, but he isn't doing that, is he?
Why?
Well, because Wilder isn't easy and may be the absolute worst option for him.
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Originally posted by davefromvancouv View PostThe mediation is ongoing BECAUSE of the stipulations in the contract.
If the outcome of that mediation requires Fury to honor his contract, which states that there be a rematch clause, Fury has a decision to make: either fight Wilder, fight someone else and risk being sued by Wilder or retire.
You would think the easiest option would be to fight Wilder, but he isn't doing that, is he?
Why?
Well, because Wilder isn't easy and may be the absolute worst option for him.
The stipulations that were acquired and put in the contract by team Wilder ?
Those stipulations of getting the deadline they wanted and then putting out photos of Wilder having surgery which I believe were old which extended the fight further ?
Fury doesn’t want to deal with Wilder because of the nonsense that came after the loss , no one does . Ha
A better question is why Finkle ,Deas or Haymon have not backed Wilder and his defamatory remarks ? But you know the answer is because they are ****** and they then look ****** to . Ha
Fury isn’t going to retire because of a team that stayed silent for months regarding talks of any negotiations ,has an expired contract to boot and does not have any legal grounds to strip Fury just based on how long this has been dragged out one by Wilders own admission of not being ready , COVID which has really put a spanner on it and just the fact they will see no attempt on Team Wilders part to persue a rematch up until Fury said he’s moving on .
You clearly don’t know the law regarding contracts and what they actually entail to enforce such things you falsely stated . Unless Fury agrees to renegotiate where both parties have to sign off on , this fight is dead . Wilder will be lucky if Team Fury throws him some money just to get him out of the way if it’s going to be a long legal battle which I don’t see either .Last edited by REDEEMER; 01-08-2021, 07:15 PM.
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