Comments Thread For: Lomachenko Casts Doubt on CompuBox Efficacy During Lopez Fight: 'I Really Question How They Count Punches'

[theface07]

I agree that Loma winning would have probably caused more controversy as I dont think he won either but neither did Lopez. This night was more about the spirit in the world not Loma being p4p. A spiritual influence that made everybody see Lopez as a representation of themselves and Loma as just the other guy. You guys saw Lopez demeanor (more confident, focused) and being proud you said, "Heh that's us, that's me". And you saw Lomas tentativeness, anxiety (unfocused) lack of confidence and said " Ha, hes soft that's the other guy." This is what CAUSED the corruption in compubox, commentating and the judges. Julie Lederman is more knowledgeable than what her scorecard suggested and her actions were NOT OUT OF IGNORANCE. Shes been around boxing all her life shes knows better. She gave Loma one round ON PURPOSE (unprofessional/corruptly) as to make some proud (arrogant) notion to fans that Loma got his ass whooped. Again with the intent to parallel and compare (proudly) your spiritual condition over the opposite, this was the theme. It caused delusion because you guys have exalted this theme over reality. For example you say Loma got his "ass kicked" when infact Lomachenko did MORE of the ass kicking. Although Loma was gun-shy Lopez never fully dominated his rounds because he was never in complete control (In control meaning he couldnt land at will because of Lomas defense and movements and his inaccuracy). He was forced to seek and find shots versus Loma (in the second half) walking him down landing bombs (whenever he wanted) in COMPLETE control (dominately). When fans tell me Lopez DESERVED to win the fight it's a reflection of spirit in the world (pride), in which makes us feel innocent, entitled and deserving. The truth is Loma deserved to win aswell, apart from not throwing enough (first half) he did win atleast two rounds (rd 2 and 6) and he risked his momentum and record to take a challenge MOST WOULD HAVE declined. Hes accepted challenges more in a straight line (besides Haney) than most fighters and hes shown MORE heart in his short pro career stint in doing so. Easy for you to say "fans should be happy" because it's the outcome you wanted but the truth is IT WASNT THE RIGHT DECISION. Reality of the situation should have prevailed and corruption, discrediting another fighter (human being, who worked hard to get to where he was) should have checked itself at the door. Period

What a pile of fluff. Did I say Loma got his ass kicked? Where did I say that? Yes he lost the fight but he didn't get beat up or hurt bad. He made sure of that by staying in a shell for 6 rounds so so much for that theory. You are clearly grasping at straws. Based on your ridiculous excuses for Loma's loss, I would guess that you are a whites only boxing fan. Your bias has no bearing on what actually happens in the ring. You are compromised by your bias, subjectivity and fandom and cannot assess the results of a fight accurately.
I was actually a Loma fan going into the fight so it's incredibly ignorant of you to say I wanted Lopez to win. That is just pure BS. Let me guess, you're a Trump guy too right? You people are an embarassment to the human race. Go back into your cave primate. Only evolved beings without a color bias should be taken seriously.

[richardt]

Surprise surprise. Another Euro whiteboy sore loser.

Reported for Racism.

[theface07]

I have been saying that for YEARS

1) compubox is inaccurate
2) "landed" punches are not official scoring criteria

and the thing is this, compubox have changed (improved) how they record punch-stats

go back 15 years and check compubox stats lol, the punches-landed stat was always much higher than it is today... making it obvious that they record everything the fighters throws, regardless as to where/how it lands

compubox is garbage

fans who use compubox numbers to... 1) judge... 2) evaluate... 3) research... are just silly cunts

It doesn't ****ing matter what compubox said. Loma lost the fight, deal with it. You don't need compubox to know who won the damn fight. It was easy to see. Even a casual fan or simpleton could see who won. You don't go into a defensive shell for the first half of a fight and typically win unless you KO your opponent or at the very least get a 10 - 8 round which he clearly did not.

[aboutfkntime]

Cue racist duschebag aboutfkntime!

It doesn't ****ing matter what compubox said. Loma lost the fight, deal with it. You don't need compubox to know who won the damn fight. It was easy to see. Even a casual fan or simpleton could see who won. You don't go into a defensive shell for the first half of a fight and typically win unless you KO your opponent or at the very least get a 10 - 8 round which he clearly did not.

fuck up shlthead, I never even mentioned that fight

I guess you must be a typical leftie phaggot, pulling the race card like that?

loser clown

[richardt]

The question is, would Loma have given Lopez a rematch in a close fight that he won? I'm not so sure he would. Either way, his team got caught up emotionally from Lopez's dad and emotion kills the rationale needed in business like putting a rematch clause into a contract. Team Loma's dumb decision.

[theface07]

fuck up shlthead, I never even mentioned that fight

I guess you must be a typical leftie phaggot, pulling the race card like that?

loser clown

**** up shlthead? WTF does that even mean? You have the mentality of a spoiled 10 year old. Is English your first language? If so, you don't have a very good grasp on it. I know people who's third language is English with more sophistication in their writing.
To address your reply, you posted on a thread about Loma whining about compubox! What else would you be talking about you self righteous, ignorant clown?
Yeah how is your democracy working for you psycho? You people are pathetic white trash hillbillies, nothing more. You must be seething knowing that ***** is the next president and the dems have the house and the senate. Ohhh that democracy burns doesn't it! Were you in the mob of ******s who attacked the capital yesterday? I wouldn't doubt it. You are the lazy, entitled, sore loser whiny baby type so I wouldn't be surprised.
You can call me a loser all day but the fact of the matter is you lost. Your party lost. Your dictator wannabe clown president lost. I suggest getting a bubble bath while listening to Hannity and Alex Jones to make yourself feel better.

[aboutfkntime]

**** up shlthead? WTF does that even mean? You have the mentality of a spoiled 10 year old. Is English your first language? If so, you don't have a very good grasp on it. I know people who's third language is English with more sophistication in their writing.
To address your reply, you posted on a thread about Loma whining about compubox! What else would you be talking about you self righteous, ignorant clown?
Yeah how is your democracy working for you psycho? You people are pathetic white trash hillbillies, nothing more. You must be seething knowing that ***** is the next president and the dems have the house and the senate. Ohhh that democracy burns doesn't it! Were you in the mob of ******s who attacked the capital yesterday? I wouldn't doubt it. You are the lazy, entitled, sore loser whiny baby type so I wouldn't be surprised.
You can call me a loser all day but the fact of the matter is you lost. Your party lost. Your dictator wannabe clown president lost. I suggest getting a bubble bath while listening to Hannity and Alex Jones to make yourself feel better.

it means... you have shlt in your head, and a big mouth

all I have ever said about that fight was...

1) it was VERY close
2) there should obviously be a rematch

so... stop your whining, you sad little crybaby cunt

loser

[Gary Coleman]

Loma, Wilder and Trump...Jesus Christ, man!

[Silver Spear]

Green k sent for this statement. Fact is Lopez stepped up and showed out and did exactly what Lomo said he couldn't do.

And what did Lopez do after the fight? He became a bigger diva than Floyd ever was. All that trash talking Lopez did saying he hates the man for no reason and you expect Loma to respect him? Lopez is now saying he is the A++ side and wants minimum 10 million per fight.

[Citizen Koba]

It’s literally a guy pressing a clicker every time he thinks a punch landed. There’s really no 100% accurate way to do it and apparently the judges aren’t privy to it while scoring. So my question is why do they even bother with it? It’s really ****** when you think about it because all punches are not equal. Let’s say you land a jab with full force that snaps the head back and then you land a jab that just barely touches your opponent’s face, should that second jab really even count? It still landed but it did nothing. It’s dumb. There’s no way to tell in real time

I think the only way they could get a semi accurate count is if they had multiple people watch a replay of the fight in slow motion tabulate their counts and the calculate an average based on what they all saw. It still wouldn’t be 100% accurate but it would be more credible

These dudes do precisely that I beleive:

https://boxstat.co/

One of the dudes runs it used to post on here many years ago - can't even recall his username now, but I chatted with him a coupla times. Seemed sincere about wanting a legit source for punch stats. Thing is there's only a small team, or was at least, 2 or 3 people so they're nowhere close to keeping up with the boxing schedule of even the major fights cos it's real labour intensive.

Also worth noting that I think they do kinda accept requests- including for historical fights - if there's enough interest. Have to wait a while for 'em though. Worthwhile project to my mind and I find it interesting just from the POV of fight analysis and stuff.

List of fights they have done:

https://boxstat.co/punch-stats