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  • Butt stuff
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    #41
    Originally posted by buddyr
    It all makes sense though. He had to be on something to give Sugar Ray bigger gloves, 12 rounds and a bigger ring just to get a higher pay day lol.
    And also spending the first half of the fight out of his natural stance trying to outbox an elite boxer.

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    • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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      #42
      Originally posted by Boxing-1013
      No, Alan Minter ******.
      Based on what? He achieved great things both amateur and pro.

      And please don’t cite his early losses that where due to cut eye stoppages, under modern rules he’d have won the vast majority of them by decision as the cuts were cause by head clashes.

      Have you actually watched Minter or are you another member of the boxrec brigade?

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        #43
        Originally posted by LeOoze
        I don't disrespect boxers who have obviously contributed greatly to boxing history. I want to learn about Hagler's best fights/opponents. But just off skimming his resume, he beat Duran who was a lightweight, Hearns who has a welterweight, and definitely lost to SRL imo...


        What are the defining fights for Hagler so I can check them out? Thanks!
        It's important to add the context, which is what you asked for so in regards to your question:

        1. Roberto Duran wasn't just a lightweight. That description would make sense if all of his success happened at 135 but that's not the case. Duran was one of the best (if not the best) lightweight ever and he defeated Iran Barkley for a middleweight title six years AFTER the Hagler fight. Duran is an all-time great.

        2. Tommy Hearns wasn't just a welterweight. He won titles from 147 all the way up to cruiserweight. Once again, he is another all-time great

        3. Sugar Ray Leonard won titles from 147 all the way up to 168-175. Another all-time great.

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        • Boxing-1013
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          #44
          Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
          Based on what? He achieved great things both amateur and pro.

          And please don’t cite his early losses that where due to cut eye stoppages, under modern rules he’d have won the vast majority of them by decision as the cuts were cause by head clashes.

          Have you actually watched Minter or are you another member of the boxrec brigade?
          Yes I watched film on him, as mentioned earlier. He wasn't good by today's standards.

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          • KillaMane26
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            #45
            Originally posted by LeOoze
            You're a racist piece of ****. Go **** yourself.
            Why I blocked his punk ass. Just cuz I ain't agree with him he pulls the race card then start bringing up how I talk.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Boxing-1013
              Yes I watched film on him, as mentioned earlier. He wasn't good by today's standards.
              Minter was a good fighter man. Good technically, very sharp left hand, good combination puncher. You don’t achieve what he did without being talented.

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                #47
                Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                Minter was a good fighter man. Good technically, very sharp left hand, good combination puncher. You don’t achieve what he did without being talented.
                Different game back then man, different era. I think he would be a fringe guy today at MW. Maybe a Macklin type of guy.

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                • LeOoze
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by KillaMane26
                  Why I blocked his punk ass. Just cuz I ain't agree with him he pulls the race card then start bringing up how I talk.
                  Dude I just joined recently and I noticed this forum is racist as ****

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                  • buddyr
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                    #49
                    Just got the Hagelr/Hearns book in the mail today titled The War . Been waiting on this to drop for months. It was released early.

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