Garcia vs Haney is a microcosm for “ducking” and meritocracy in Boxing

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #11
    Originally posted by Inspired
    for once i agree with you
    Haney vs loma is the obvious choice
    IF Haney loses, then Bob is happy as they've spanked one of Eddie's potential future stars.
    If Haney wins then it makes a fight vs Lopez HUGE.
    I would've preferred Haney got the fight before the Teo /Loma fight. You should agree with me more in 2021.

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      #12
      Anybody that wants to fight Lopez should have to beat Loma. Think you're that good? Prove it.

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        #13
        Originally posted by NYG
        Anybody that wants to fight Lopez should have to beat Loma. Think you're that good? Prove it.
        I don't disagree with this but That can only happen if Loma fights that person. If Loma or Bob refuses to make a fight, then you can't ask someone to beat Loma to get Teo.

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          #14
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          I don't disagree with this but That can only happen if Loma fights that person. If Loma or Bob refuses to make a fight, then you can't ask someone to beat Loma to get Teo.
          True but none of these guys even mention his name. They want the titles without doing anything to earn them but nobody wants to fight Loma because even though he lost to Lopez, he's still an excellent fighter and i would hate to be his next opponent.

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            #15
            Originally posted by NYG
            True but none of these guys even mention his name. They want the titles without doing anything to earn them but nobody wants to fight Loma because even though he lost to Lopez, he's still an excellent fighter and i would hate to be his next opponent.
            Loma is still dangerous, no doubt. I don't see how anyone could get mad if Haney tells Loma to go f-ck himself after Loma dropped the belt and refused to fight him.

            The other issue is Loma isn't a huge draw so I don't see any big names fighting him unless they absolutely have to. I am interested to see if Bob puts him in with the Berchelt/Valdez winner because that is a winnable fight but will it generate more money than Shakur vs one of them?

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              #16
              So the guy who couldn’t stop a old shot and recently injured Gamboa the most avoided man at 135

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                #17
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                Loma is still dangerous, no doubt. I don't see how anyone could get mad if Haney tells Loma to go f-ck himself after Loma dropped the belt and refused to fight him.

                The other issue is Loma isn't a huge draw so I don't see any big names fighting him unless they absolutely have to. I am interested to see if Bob puts him in with the Berchelt/Valdez winner because that is a winnable fight but will it generate more money than Shakur vs one of them?
                I think Loma is the name they all need to basically do whatever they want in the division. They are all afraid to lose their 0 and they want things handed to them without taking chances and it's obvious that it's 100% fine in boxing.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by NYG
                  I think Loma is the name they all need to basically do whatever they want in the division. They are all afraid to lose their 0 and they want things handed to them without taking chances and it's obvious that it's 100% fine in boxing.
                  I don't believe anyone is afraid of losing. Loma can't be the only one that is allowed to not take fights to prevent losing before a huge payday. Haney nor Teo tried to avoid Loma.

                  Loma was the guy that avoided Haney. He did same with Berchelt when he was at 130. Now Tank may end up doing the same thing and avoid Loma. We agree that isn't right.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    I get that he has mandatory requirements. My point is addressing the thread. What happened to Haney is one of the things that is wrong with the sport IMO. Whether he fights Ryan or Fontura next, he shouldn't have been denied a chance at greatness.

                    Exactly......

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by NYG
                      Anybody that wants to fight Lopez should have to beat Loma. Think you're that good? Prove it.

                      So teofimo should only fight people who beat lomachencko?


                      Dumbest logic ever.

                      Salido vs lopez next then

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