Is Ryan on that Canelo good-good stuff

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  • aboutfkntime
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    #11
    nah, thats just typical dumb shlt that casual-fans say

    at least 1 idiot was going to say that

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      #12
      Originally posted by Boxing-1013
      Yeah it's a sham in many ways. From Fury to Canelo to many others, the failed tests just don't seem to stick with them very long. Short memories for most of us.

      It's even more disgraceful the way DAZN and ESPN promote Canelo and Fury. They literally failed drug tests, the most de****able thing you can do in boxing.

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        #13
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime
        nah, thats just typical dumb shlt that casual-fans say

        at least 1 idiot was going to say that
        So you don't think any guys are on PEDs? I'm confused by your point here.

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          #14
          Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
          It's even more disgraceful the way DAZN and ESPN promote Canelo and Fury. They literally failed drug tests, the most de****able thing you can do in boxing.
          Yep, those failed tests are never even mentioned when their names are mentioned. That is probably the main reason why we have short memories about it.

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            #15
            Canelo is doing VADA. He's kicking ass while being clean as a a whistle.

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            • aboutfkntime
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              #16
              Originally posted by Boxing-1013
              So you don't think any guys are on PEDs? I'm confused by your point here.




              I think that is just typical dumb shlt that casual-fans say, for whatever reason

              your assertion, that Garcia is mysteriously better than he was years ago... is absolute ******ity

              how long did you think he was going to train in a world-class environment, with world-class trainers, and world-class sparring partners... without progressing?

              it's just typical unsubstantiated dumb shlt

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              • Sheikh
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                #17
                I'm sure that he is. You have a cheater promotor De La Hoya and then Canelo and Garcia. 3 cheaters

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                  Canelo is doing VADA. He's kicking ass while being clean as a a whistle.

                  https://vada-testing.org/2020/11/24/...elo-alvarez-3/
                  I think most guys are on something, so not picking on Canelo. He is probably on the best stuff though.

                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  I think that is just typical dumb shlt that casual-fans say, for whatever reason

                  your assertion, that Garcia is mysteriously better than he was years ago... is absolute ******ity

                  how long did you think he was going to train in a world-class environment, with world-class trainers, and world-class sparring partners... without progressing?

                  it's just typical unsubstantiated dumb shlt
                  It was just over 2 years ago, not exactly a big timeframe relative to just how much he improved.

                  It is possible that the Reynosos are just great trainers and they have techniques that have helped Canelo and Ryan improve greatly in the last couple years.

                  To believe that, you would have to believe that just in the past few years have they really honed their techniques, as they have worked with Canelo for a far longer time, and Canelo's big improvement just came in the last couple of years as well.

                  It is certainly fair to question just 'how' Ryan has improved so much in such a short time. It could be legit. I think it is a bit foolish to believe that though. More likely he is improved some because of the trainers. But I think there is some 'help' thrown in there too. His power is otherworldly now compared to what he had, come on dude

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Boxing-1013
                    I think most guys are on something, so not picking on Canelo. He is probably on the best stuff though.
                    You say you're not picking on him yet I don't see you making threads about this for other guys.

                    Canelo is enrolled in the best testing there is. Fact.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Boxing-1013
                      Fair points my friend. It could just be that the Reynosos are truly great great trainers as well. Perhaps a mix of both too - better training mixed with some good-good stuff. Even if Canelo is on some good stuff, it is hard to say he isn't an excellent fighter. Ryan seems to be following a similar trajectory to me.

                      Just feel like his transformation after that Morales fight is su****ious. Almost like after that fight, everyone on the team said, 'OK we need some 'help' here to get this kid to stardom.'
                      I'm convinced Canelo has/is a user.

                      If you take opportunity away from ppl a lot of things would look different. Shakur said he never got beat up in sparring until he fought Bud. Haney got to learn & share the ring with Mayweather(s)

                      When you have the typa economic power Ryan has, he was/is gonna be a star either way. Whether through matchmaking, self improvement, or a combination of the two. Money talks & it's all about what pleases his fan base.

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