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  • TernceBudCharlo
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    What Happened to Lomachenko

    I thought this guy was the goods when he beat Gary Russel.

    I thought his wins over Gary, the Axeman, and Rigo were great.

    He did not look good at all against Campbell, Pedraza, Linares, Teo.

    Was he overrated at 126 and 130 all along? Or is he just not as good at 135?

    Did he never actually improve after the Salido fight and can't deal with bigger guys who put pressure on you?
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    If it has to be explained to you then you'll never get it. He beat all those bigger guys, even stopped Linares, the same guy Mikey avoided at 135. Pedraza said that Lomachenko was the better fighter over Tank. Loma is a small lightweight compared to some of these guys who can easily compete at 140/7.

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    • TernceBudCharlo
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      #3
      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
      If it has to be explained to you then you'll never get it. He beat all those bigger guys, even stopped Linares, the same guy Mikey avoided at 135. Pedraza said that Lomachenko was the better fighter over Tank. Loma is a small lightweight compared to some of these guys who can easily compete at 140/7.
      What happens if Garcia smashes through Campbell? Then Loma would be a huge underdog against Garcia, Teo, Haney, and Tank.

      Why did Canelo (who as you know I am not a fan of) make it look so easy when he went up in weight but Loma gets tagged left and right?

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      • Madison Boxing
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        hes fighting bigger guys, yes he didnt perform well against lopez but once he got warmed up he was lighting him up. if campbell beats garcia then that win looks a whole lot better too

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        • Richard Hamilton
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          Amazing fighter

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            #6
            Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
            What happens if Garcia smashes through Campbell? Then Loma would be a huge underdog against Garcia, Teo, Haney, and Tank.

            Why did Canelo (who as you know I am not a fan of) make it look so easy when he went up in weight but Loma gets tagged left and right?
            The "What if" scenarios can be played out for any fighter. Garcia is a non-entity now, he won't fight at 135 again.

            Canelo was always a large Jr. Middle. He had to drain himself to make the catchweight against Floyd. He needed CLEN to make weight at 154/160. He's even outgrown 160. He is more of a natural 168. Loma's frame is not that big. When he fights at 135 he enters the right around 140 or 142. Canelo packs on 15-20 pounds after weigh ins. Look at the size difference between him and Cotto when they fought.

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            • TernceBudCharlo
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              #7
              Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
              The "What if" scenarios can be played out for any fighter. Garcia is a non-entity now, he won't fight at 135 again.

              Canelo was always a large Jr. Middle. He had to drain himself to make the catchweight against Floyd. He needed CLEN to make weight at 154/160. He's even outgrown 160. He is more of a natural 168. Loma's frame is not that big. When he fights at 135 he enters the right around 140 or 142. Canelo packs on 15-20 pounds after weigh ins. Look at the size difference between him and Cotto when they fought.
              Right but why is he getting hit so much more than he used to at 130/126? The Axeman and GRJ have much faster hands that these guys and they were swinging at air all night

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                #8
                Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo

                Did he never actually improve after the Salido fight and can't deal with bigger guys who put pressure on you?
                - -Salido didn't even try to make wt and at the welter limit in the ring. Add on 200lb Cole pulling Loma off every time he got on top while Salido sucker punched while being restrained by Cole begs the ?

                Why U no see the Fight, or alternately, why U dishonest?

                A bad combo of both by U M/O sounds like.

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                • TernceBudCharlo
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules
                  - -Salido didn't even try to make wt and at the welter limit in the ring. Add on 200lb Cole pulling Loma off every time he got on top while Salido sucker punched while being restrained by Cole begs the ?

                  Why U no see the Fight, or alternately, why U dishonest?

                  A bad combo of both by U M/O sounds like.
                  Who cares, Salido isn't an elite fighter. Even w a big weight advantage a p4p elite would win that fight.

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                  • boliodogs
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
                    I thought this guy was the goods when he beat Gary Russel.

                    I thought his wins over Gary, the Axeman, and Rigo were great.

                    He did not look good at all against Campbell, Pedraza, Linares, Teo.

                    Was he overrated at 126 and 130 all along? Or is he just not as good at 135?

                    Did he never actually improve after the Salido fight and can't deal with bigger guys who put pressure on you?
                    Why bother to answer your question when you have your mind made up all ready when you say he was overrated at 126 and 130 all along and is just not as good at 135? If you have decided this then why should I bother to try to change your mind even though i don't agree. I think Loma is a great fighter who is past prime and too small for 135. He lost to a very good and powerful young boxer who is a big hard hitting lightweight and to make it worse he fought a ****** fight. That doesn't mean he was overrated. he did great things as an amateur and a pro.

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