High time for Luis Ortiz to leave PBC

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  • REDEEMER
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    #11
    Originally posted by DaNeutral.
    Heads needed to roll when he was not informed Anthony Joshua was offering the fight he'd said he wanted for a career high pay day. They neglected to tell him about the offer and lied to Hearn and Joshua about his availability.
    Ortiz walked off in 2016 anyway it’s his own fault . Haymon and that snake Jimminez didn’t want Ortiz to fight AJ ,they wanted the Ortiz vs Wilder 2 .

    Either way Ortiz just has very little intelligent thinking keeping these guys around so it’s on him .His career has been a total flop .

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    • Earl-Hickey
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      #12
      I think his time has come and gone, he's still good enough to blast out bums but he looked really bad in that second Wilder fight, old, and that was a couple of years back now.

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      • lolpz
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        #13
        When he was with matchroom, all those guys you mentioned ducked him and didn’t want to fight him. Wilder was the only one willing, so he agreed to sign with PBC in order to get the Wilder fight.

        He later turned down the Joshua fight on short notice to get the Wilder rematch, which he got. Haymon took care of him money wise. As for his legacy, not much you can do when no one wants to fight you and claims you are too old...as if fighting an “old” guy would be a problem if you felt you could actually win.

        One of the very few legitimate boogeymen in the sport.
        Last edited by lolpz; 12-26-2020, 04:02 PM.

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        • Marchegiano
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          #14
          Originally posted by REDEEMER
          This is a lie . Ortiz was with Matchroom while being under contract for an AJ fight coming up . There would be no need to force anything had he honored that contract in his 3 fight deal then going into a Joshua one because he held a WBO mandatory position , but keep trying sooner or later you’ll get it . Ha

          Ortiz fought Wilder for what was 250,000 or so instead . Where was the dispute with any agreement on money there ? Ha
          I don't understand how anything you said contradicts anything I said.

          This is a lie. Ortiz was with Matchroom ****ing ******.

          Anyway, you're wrong regardless:

          Six weeks after leaving Golden Boy Promotions, heavyweight Luis Ortiz has signed with British promoter Matchroom Boxing.


          "We plan to keep him very busy and let the fans enjoy his devastating power. Luis is an avoided fighter but we plan on giving him the profile that will make that impossible." - Eddie Hearn
          Last edited by Marchegiano; 12-26-2020, 07:26 PM.

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          • brettWall
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            #15
            In-house fights being easy to make is a myth.

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            • just the facts
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              #16
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules
              - -Genny sweet'ums, what grade U in next year?
              This is one strange MFer. Half the time I don't even know wtf he's trying to say.

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              • just the facts
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                #17
                Originally posted by REDEEMER
                Ortiz walked off in 2016 anyway it’s his own fault . Haymon and that snake Jimminez didn’t want Ortiz to fight AJ ,they wanted the Ortiz vs Wilder 2 .

                Either way Ortiz just has very little intelligent thinking keeping these guys around so it’s on him .His career has been a total flop .
                Maybe, maybe not but Ortiz is dangerous enough for team AJ to low ball him and fight Ruiz instead.

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                • Laligalaliga
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by lolpz
                  When he was with matchroom, all those guys you mentioned ducked him and didn’t want to fight him. Wilder was the only one willing, so he agreed to sign with PBC in order to get the Wilder fight.

                  He later turned down the Joshua fight on short notice to get the Wilder rematch, which he got. Haymon took care of him money wise. As for his legacy, not much you can do when no one wants to fight you and claims you are too old...as if fighting an “old” guy would be a problem if you felt you could actually win.

                  One of the very few legitimate boogeymen in the sport.
                  Lol....... Legitimate bogeymen? Who did he fight that gave him such accolade's? Am eager to know.

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                  • just the facts
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                    #19
                    If Ortiz actually cannot land a fight with one of the other quality heavyweights, he should at least explore other options. Look at what Arum did for Pulev.

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                    • lolpz
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                      Lol....... Legitimate bogeymen? Who did he fight that gave him such accolade's? Am eager to know.
                      No one wanting to fight you is the definition of being a boogeyman...so he doesn't have the accolades obviously. I'm not sure if you are too dense to understand that.

                      It is much different from for example Golovkin, who claimed to be a boogeyman but was getting called out by 154, 160, and 168lber's left and right. Even a 147lb fighter moved up to fight him...a lot of people wanted a piece of him. He ducked the dangerous opponents and cherry picked the easier ones.

                      On the other hand, you don't see anyone calling Luis Ortiz name in the heavyweight division. Only ones to step up and fight him were Jennings and Wilder. Joshua was willing, I'll give him that, but Ortiz chose to get a rematch with Wilder on with PBC. None of these other top guys/contenders will fight him.

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