Spence: Crawford needs to accept 70/30 or whtevr we give.Canelo a possibility for me.

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  • kushking
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    #51
    Originally posted by Curt Henning
    fact

    arum said they were targeting porter before the mean machine fight...he said after this fight they were eyeing porter

    bud beats mean machine..

    kenny porter says "call us we can make that fight"...because he had haymons ok...

    bout a week or so after that bud is on camera and asked about porter fight

    "nah thats not on our radar"

    buds fanbois say "he wants belts porter aint got no belt"

    the reality is they love saying theyre targeting pbc guys when they know the pbc guys have other plans or wont respond or acknowledge them....they know the pbc guys dont need bud because theyve had plent of options right at home...so they have timmy bradley on espn running his mouth...the minute kenny porter spoke up and said "call us" they did a 180 real quick

    if you believe spence is playing games ok...fair...youre entitled...but its both sides stalling and drawing this out...not just one...
    Knowing Top ranks matchmakers I am 100% certain that the green machine fight was a test to see Crawfords true level & what they feel comfortable risking in his next fights,& most importantly whether theres any glaring weaknesses that make fighting someone like Porter too risky of losing Spence payday.

    & I am 100% convinced the real reason Arum came out talking sht about Bud is because he realized afterwards that Buds team has no plans to sieze feasting on no hopers til they land Spence or Pac,& they came to that conclusion because Buds level looked far below hype made them assume he was,& they realized Porter can derail the entire hypetrain before it gets to the station.

    So Arum got fed up thinking man ima have to keep paying this Albatross to fight pub brawlers in Omaha shantytowns.

    So thats why the porter fight was instantly mooted like the Ward fight was by ggg, for the same reason,neither wanted to risk losing a bigger payday on a high risk opponent (with ggg unlike bud he knew he stood no shot vs Ward,Bud just knows Porter & hims a pickem)
    Last edited by kushking; 12-20-2020, 09:44 AM.

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    • MDPopescu
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      #52
      Originally posted by Curt Henning
      ... the pbc guys dont need bud because theyve had plent of options right at home...
      ... Spence doesn't have anymore options at 147...
      ... so, he goes at 154 to fight Charlo?...

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        #53
        Originally posted by DaNeutral.
        Errol is worth more than Bud. Neither are big stars but Errol done bigger numbers. But Errol don't want it. You telling me you haven't been listening? You really guna play dumb?
        Stop the obtuse BS and playing dumb. Star is not something you can measure, sales are. Errol sells significantly more on ppv.

        As for listening, now your flat out lying about who wants it. Let’s take what was said after their last fights.

        Errol said he was going to his farm and hang with his kids. He mentioned no names.

        Crawford gave some bs answer about wanting to fight Errol, then he and Bob pivoted and talked 5 times as long about fighting manny in the Middle East.

        That you give Crawford credit for that just shows your biased against anything and everything pbc.

        What you want- but don’t have the guts to post- is Errol to sacrifice his worth to make a fight. You want him to lose because you hate it that pbc is growing and expanding as a company.

        Let’s face it if Crawford truly wanted the fight he wouldn’t still be with TR.

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          #54
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          You talk a lot about ducking so don’t duck the question.

          Why do with call pbc fighters afraid or say they don’t want a fight if they don’t take less than they are worth or give opponents more than they are worth to make fights?
          Which fighters? I'm saying I understand if Spence and Crawford fought Spence deserves a bigger cut. But Spence don't want it. Like I said if you can't see it you are dumb and you ain't dumb so you are playing dumb. Spence has been blatantly dismissive of Crawford since he arrived at 147.

          Which other fighters we talking about? Wilder? Tank? Plant?

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            #55
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            Stop the obtuse BS and playing dumb. Star is not something you can measure, sales are. Errol sells significantly more on ppv.

            As for listening, now your flat out lying about who wants it. Let’s take what was said after their last fights.

            Errol said he was going to his farm and hang with his kids. He mentioned no names.

            Crawford gave some bs answer about wanting to fight Errol, then he and Bob pivoted and talked 5 times as long about fighting manny in the Middle East.

            That you give Crawford credit for that just shows your biased against anything and everything pbc.

            What you want- but don’t have the guts to post- is Errol to sacrifice his worth to make a fight. You want him to lose because you hate it that pbc is growing and expanding as a company.

            Let’s face it if Crawford truly wanted the fight he wouldn’t still be with TR.
            LOL I actually think the PBC is in a big way helping to ruin Boxing in America. I

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            • Curt Henning
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              #56
              Originally posted by DaNeutral.
              Now now potty mouth. Just cuz you know Spence is ducking Crawford and so does literally else you need to bring up the names of other fighters.

              Fkking Porter, I'd happily have that fight but Bud wants to fight the champion not the pretender. Doesn't Porter just need to accept his mandatory status to make that fight?
              bud was on camera and asked about it and said "thats not on my radar"...and instead went to bring kell brook in lol....cmon...that actually happened and you know it

              and buds fans said "well bud doenst have a belt he wants belts...he wants spence so yeah he doesnt care about porter"...meanwhile arum kept saying they were targeting porter...well they were when they thought no one would say boo back....then kenny porter responded and said "call us"

              if he only wants belts then what else is he going to do if he cant get the pac or spence fight? he has to pick someone? why not porter then?!

              like ive said...if you want to blame spence too thats fine...blame both..both sides are playing a game....theyre waiting it out until its absolutely neccessary and at its highest value.....this type of stuff happens time and time again yet people fall into the trap of trhinking it might not or wont happen
              Last edited by Curt Henning; 12-20-2020, 09:49 AM.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Curt Henning
                nah hes suggesting, as am i, that youre a blithering idiot...its not a suggestion really...its a matter of fact
                That’s his default when his bs is called out.

                He hates pbc, cool we get it. He hates it that Haymon is growing and expanding his company and is seen as the most powerful man in the sport.

                Only he knows the real reasons why he hates haymon and is so biased against any pbc fighter.

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                • Curt Henning
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by MDPopescu
                  ... Spence doesn't have anymore options at 147...
                  ... so, he goes at 154 to fight Charlo?...
                  huh? he can still pursue a pac fight or a thurman fight....at 147 lol

                  i dont care what your opinion of thurman or pac is...those are both feasible and good fights....spence is not out of options at 147 yet...not at all...

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                    #59
                    Boy cap... Errol Spence know damn well Canelo ain't no possibility.

                    He's just mentioning his name for leverage in Bud negotiations.

                    Two of his biggest wins are against two blown up Latinos... now I'm to believe he's going to fight one naturally bigger than him?

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                      #60
                      What was he doing at the fight (Like he asked of Crawford when asked) Why did DAZN interview him (Would Showtime or FOX had interview Crawford in the same scenario)? Isn’t that showcasing him? Has PBC ever offered anyone a genuine money fight (In fights that the fans asked for)? This are the questions a boxing fan should be asking.

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