Spence: Crawford needs to accept 70/30 or whtevr we give.Canelo a possibility for me.

[Robbie Barrett]

have you lost your ******ity yet robbie? did u get a job and move out yet robbie? lol...no one said he should accept 30 percent...its a negotiation...once you get off your parents insurance youll understand money...

Oh you knew i was talking about you? Was it that obvious, i guess it was me saying clown made you self identify. I understand perfectly. You're a biased **** that flip flops your stance.

[Curt Henning]

Oh you knew i was talking about you? Was it that obvious, i guess it was me saying clown made you self identify. I understand perfectly. You're a biased **** that flip flops your stance.

flip flopped my stance on what? hahah i never do that....thats one thing about me...i usually stick to my guns unless i find error in my stance or over time it proves to be wrong(which im man enough to admit when it happens)

one day youll grow up robbie

[Robbie Barrett]

flip flopped my stance on what? hahah i never do that....thats one thing about me...i usually stick to my guns unless i find error in my stance or over time it proves to be wrong(which im man enough to admit when it happens)

one day youll grow up robbie

There was a bigger gap between Joshua and Wilders drawing power when you were saying Wilder deserves 50% than there's between Spence-Crawford. You're a flip flopper. It's a fact.

If Spence wasn't a fighter you like you'd be calling it a duck him asking for 70%.

You guys are ****ing clowns.

[Curt Henning]

There was a bigger gap between Joshua and Wilders drawing power when you were saying Wilder deserves 50% than there's between Spence-Crawford. You're a flip flopper. It's a fact.

If Spence wasn't a fighter you like you'd be calling it a duck him asking for 70%.

You guys are ****ing clowns.

wilder didnt have his own promoter saying hes losing money and cant sell...wilder also had a rematch with ortiz he could do that would generate some interest...also he had fury which would generate a ton of interest...and it did

wilder brought the american audience/aspect of a big fight.....bud brings the nebraska audience

whats bud going to do without spence?

[Citizen Koba]

i wouldnt expect him to take 30 either...even though i know spence is in the power position here...but spence is going to say that...i expect spence to say that....its a negotiation....start high....

Don't see an issue with it as a negotiating position but it's gonna take compromise on both sides I reckon. Regardless of anything else Bud's a prideful guy I think and might rather pass than feel like he's getting a raw deal, whatever logic dictates.

[SweetPbfAli]

Spence is just using his leverage in the situation. Now, as a boxing fan, I think it's trash but it's the reality of it. The issue is these fighters think they have Mayweather type leverage and influence and they don't. Canelo is literally the only fighter that can take or leave any fight based on his demands and he isn't even close in terms of being the money generator and polarization of Mayweather.

[DaNeutral.]

Why should he? There is no money in that fight.

It's more money fighting a Canelo than a Crawford because Ginger is a huge, mainstream and crossover star. While Bud's audience is largely marginalized among boxing fans only. He is an unknown entity who doesn't sale pay per views or put enough meat in the seats.

I admit that a fight between Spence and Crawford would be a boxing fan's dream. However, with the Pacquiao and Canelo fights on the horizon I just don't see it happening anytime soon.

LOL why should he? Wasn't it Spence calling strap season? Crawford got a strap. Everybody wants that fight, I can't believe PBC fans so happy to dismiss it.

Also, you really think he is going to fight Canelo? For real? He's clout chasing. He's never going to do that, plz don't fall for that nonsense.

[Curt Henning]

Don't see an issue with it as a negotiating position but it's gonna take compromise on both sides I reckon. Regardless of anything else Bud's a prideful guy I think and might rather pass than feel like he's getting a raw deal, whatever logic dictates.

well yeah..if spence sticks to 30 percent for bud id expect bud to pass....i highly doubt spence would stick by that though...its just a posturing position...start high....spence knows he and his team are in a power position.....thats just reality....buds own promoter is out there talking down on him and spence has several, somewhat successful, ppvs under his belt....so naturally hes going to come in like hes in a good spot.....60-40 should get it done.....i do believe bud might be too prideful to accept that also....60-40 to me is reasonable...70-30 is not...but i dont know if bud will accept 60-40 either which i believe is fine....i think bud is a bit gassed up by what bob has been paying him and his p4p status in magazines or websites....but reality is a bit different when it comes to the finances here

[Doubledagger]

Exactly, Spence holds all the cards now. He's got potential fights with Pac, Crawford and Thurman who are all willing to fight him on the PBC.

Crawford lost his bargaining chip when his own promoter threw him under bus by saying that he was a difficult sell and has lost a lot of money on him.

That is going to hurt Bud's marketing power at the bargaining table with other fighters in future negotiations.

What promoter in their right mind would want to fool with Terence now? No promoter is going to be willing to go bankrupt by promoting and overpaying his worth.

But maybe that is what Bob wants the other promoters to think so that they don't snatch Bud Crawford from him.

Thia fool could be playing mind games tryna brainphuck Crawford into staying and brainfuphuck the other promoters into staying away from Crawford.

[Citizen Koba]

well yeah..if spence sticks to 30 percent for bud id expect bud to pass....i highly doubt spence would stick by that though...its just a posturing position...start high....spence knows he and his team are in a power position.....thats just reality....buds own promoter is out there talking down on him and spence has several, somewhat successful, ppvs under his belt....so naturally hes going to come in like hes in a good spot.....60-40 should get it done.....i do believe bud might be too prideful to accept that also....60-40 to me is reasonable...70-30 is not...but i dont know if bud will accept 60-40 either which i believe is fine....i think bud is a bit gassed up by what bob has been paying him and his p4p status in magazines or websites....but reality is a bit different when it comes to the finances here

I suspect Bud might not go below 50/50... maybe 45/55 at a push but I'd even doubt that. Don't think he's a dude that'll bend to being the B side even though in terms of draw and opportunities he probably is. And for sure Bob's paying him very well to keep him but it's more than just that I think... like you say Bud regards Bud very highly and in his mind he deserves 50%. Gonna be hard to get around that.