Let's be honest, Callum Smith QUIT

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  • elfag
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    #21
    He was scared to get knocked out but took his beating. He could have ran way more, or pushed and fouled his way out of it. A lot of fighters have been worse, an old hopkins trying to foul his way to the end comes to mind.

    It would have been better for him to go for broke and get stopped in the process than take a prolonged beating but thats what he choosed.

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      #22
      Originally posted by moochi
      He quit before he started dude... when have you ever seen a fighter take a fight on 4 weeks notice (which actually included travel to the USA and jet lag) for their biggest fight of their career??? He did it because he had too, either stay at home and get no money or take it and make career high payday...

      Canelo has that leverage, he's training for the guy for months, he knows the opponent, but they don't get notified until the 11th hour. It's a take it or leave it, very smart strategy from Canelo ... also helps with drug testing.
      Damn ****** ppl shouldn't open their mouths.

      Ruiz!

      2nd Smith has been linked to Canelo ALL year! Its been Saunders or Smith.

      His team should of known. It takes months to hash out contracts like this. Everyone knew or has a VERY good idea.

      Everyone knew it was gonna he Smith except you the DOPE.

      Didn't you bring up he was picked because Ryder almost beat him??? Well that fight was November of last year.


      Did anyone ELSE not named Moochi Dumbass really not think Smith was the next opponent???

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        #23
        Originally posted by el***
        He was scared to get knocked out but took his beating. He could have ran way more, or pushed and fouled his way out of it. A lot of fighters have been worse, an old hopkins trying to foul his way to the end comes to mind.

        It would have been better for him to go for broke and get stopped in the process than take a prolonged beating but thats what he choosed.
        You've been around for a minute. When did you think it was going to be Smith that fights Canelo?

        Originally it was Saunders but then he turned it down and talks never went anywhere. Then talk of Plant who also passed.

        Then it kept always coming back to Smith. It looked like Smith had more HEART problems then stamina or fatique...

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          #24
          $5+++ million and your NAMED attached to Canelo you BEST be a PRO and prepare for that fight.

          Canelo haters have the WORST excuses.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
            After about 2 rounds he thought you know what I can't win so I'm not going to try, let me just go 12 rounds

            Sorry, not good enough, I don't want to see you big 6'3" Don running away from a midget and only throwing little pit pat shots no commitment and looking at the clock

            Theres quitting without actually saying the words, go out flat on your back or just admit you aren't in there to win and say the words I quit.

            Smith in that third round should have said OK, I can't win this one on points, it's me or him someone's going out flat on their back, and marched forward, chin to chest and thrown hell for leather until someone got stretchered out.
            All of that sounds good in theory, however the punch stats don't support what you're claiming as Callum Smith threw more punches overall. Being a "game quitter" as you described would be pulling a Joshua Clottey against Manny Pacquiao where you just cover up all night.

            Callum went to the ropes in hopes of clipping Canelo with a "catch and counter" but Alvarez was ready for it. Besides that, it's tough to over-commit to shots when you're getting rocked with counters and I've seen Floyd Mayweather Jr. look at the clock in fights he was winning handily.

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            • whollisboxing
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              #26
              Originally posted by el***
              He was scared to get knocked out but took his beating. He could have ran way more, or pushed and fouled his way out of it. A lot of fighters have been worse, an old hopkins trying to foul his way to the end comes to mind.

              It would have been better for him to go for broke and get stopped in the process than take a prolonged beating but thats what he choosed.
              I think he tried to win throughout the fight. He was just outclassed and super-critics will find fault in anything a fighter does.

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              • Razor Ramon
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                #27
                I don't like to knock fighters for a lack of guts, because I've never done it and never could, but watching him in the last round looking up at the clock and initiating clinches without even throwing a punch first was pathetic. He just wanted out of there when he had 3 minutes to throw the kitchen sink and at least try to catch him with something and retain the title. I know he'd took some damage but Jesus Christ, it's 5 foot 8 Saul Alvarez in there not Mike Tyson, he shouldn't have been that scared of him

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Toffee
                  He didn't quit at all.

                  I don't think he did enough in the early rounds, but who wants to trade with Canelo? I'm not quite sure what the game plan was but there isn't a version of Smith that beats a version of Canelo.

                  He was throwing right to the end (well nearly the end, he just wanted to survive the last minute).

                  Just didn't have the shots that could trouble Canelo. Not on his level - or even close. But not many are though.

                  The guy just took 12 rounds of punishment from a guy who hits hard. I think it's a bit rich for people on here to call him a quitter.

                  I think he took two or three low shots too. A quitter would have taken a knee and rolled the dice on getting a rest. He didn't; he just winced and got on with it.
                  Callum actually threw 100 punches in the first two rounds compared to 44 for Canelo so I'm not sure how much more he could have done. And yes, it is definitely rich for people to call him a quitter. Those same people would probably still call him a quitter if he went out guns blazing because they would claim that he allowed himself to get knocked out instead of trying to win for all 12 rounds. Critics are never satisfied.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by james240
                    Callum Smith is a huge puncher i cant fathom Canelo chin walked down GGG, Kovalev and now Smith.

                    Truly remarkable he doesn't have one punch KO power like Tyson but he batters fighters over rounds and just makes them quit or go into their shell they are scared to trade with him.

                    Also the sound of his punches just a loud heavy thud they sound like cricket bats hitting leather.
                    Exactly, great post! I think Canelo's punches sound like that because he is short and a lot of times when he throws his hooks and fighters are moving away he slaps with the hooks, hence the sound. But yeah, you don't have to be a big puncher to demoralize powerful fighters. You just have to be able to pressure them without taking damage and land strong accurate shots and Canelo's really good at this. Maybe best in the game.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by james240
                      He was just shocked that Canelo walked through his best shots and then walked him down.

                      Many fighters lose to Canelo before they even get into the ring.
                      It definitely looked like that but it's a sign of mental weakness. yea it's smart to be careful when you're in there with a big puncher, but if you're losing every round and you only have a couple of rounds to make something happen, you go for broke because you're losing anyway, and it's better to lose on your shield and make a good account of yourself than to go down like that.

                      At the end of the day he's gonna have to look himself in the mirror the nrxt day and live with the fact that he didn't leave it all on the ring, and that's something i can't respect no matter how big a puncher the opponent is. A weak person sees such a situation as something to survive, a strong person sees it as an opportunity to at least make a name for themselves, and he chose the first.

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