If that kid is not on PED's...

[sunny31]

He's the most obvious I've seen since Povetkins really obvious phase. He is 100% absoloutley juiced to the gills, but it is what it is in this sport we forgive guys for juicing all the time I just don't care any more.

I forgot about Povekin - goes life and death with a career cruiserweight in a war and then starts KO'ing people for fun.

I expected the backlash from the Canelo fans - but the level of delusion is still always surprising. Mind you there was a time when I was like some of these guys, but at this point you've got to learn to call a spade a spade.

I have no doubt BJS will be juiced to the gills when he fights this guy - prob why he didnt take the fight last year, didnt have time to cycle on and off - at least we'll be seeing an even playing field

[sunny31]

For starters its you who is the kid and if you actually know boxing and watch its his boxing ability thats beating them.

I'm 37 years old - so no I'm not a kid

[Ray*]

His neck has always been naturally thick like that. It’s called genes.

Yep but now it’s extra thick, he really must have been working on that neck

[ReggieKray]

then how come he couldnt even knockdown mosley????? a much smaller pac was able to knockdown mosley but not the much bigger supposedly harder hitting canelo.

how come he couldn't take out angluo the same way kirkland did??? canelo was landing shot after shot on angulo, but he never even went down.

how come canelo couldnt even hurt an old past prime small cotto even though sadam ali easily could??????

now canelo is able to KO light heavyweights. extremely su****ious hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Only if you knew anything about boxing....

First, you're making it seem like Canelo didn't brutalize the fk out them which he obviously did.

Second, your making it seem like he was 22-23 when he fought those fights.

Thrid, you are taking about fights that were in thair prime making these KOs.

GTFOH with your weak arguments.

[Divine Hammer]

I don't know what fight you were watching if you don't think Trout looked more tentative than usual. Canelo's counters had him staying busy throwing a lot of pawing shots when he'd never been reluctant to trade in the past. Every once in a while Trout would try to mix things up but Canelo would knock him on his heels and have him think better of it. That fight didn't even feature much action yet Canelo dropped him hard and had him doing the chicken dance.

As for Cotto, again that was largely a boxing match in which Cotto spent much of the fight circling away and throwing a lot of tapping shots instead of digging in like normal. And again, even without a lot of intense action, Cotto was bloodied and battered by the end.

The fact that you both brought up the Mosley fight when he was 21 speaks volumes. You might as well bring up Ryan Rhodes while you're at it.

At any rate, not only has Canelo evolved from fight to fight and stylistically changed by pressing on the front foot, his mindset in the ring is very different. In some of his past fights he seemed content to do enough to bank in the rounds and clinch a decision, but ever since he accepted GGG's Mexican style challenge in the rematch (and beat him at his own game), he seems more eager to make a statement. He had the Callum fight in the bag going into the championship rounds yet was pushing for the stoppage which he was unable to secure (credit to Callum's heart and resilience) yet you insist his power is impossible to believe? Yeah, okay. More like you're unwilling to give boxing's p4p king his just due for a dominant performance.

u are the one who doesnt know what they were watching. trout fought like he usually does. not tentative at all. even in the round where he was knocked down he rallied back and arguably evened out the round according to the showtime commentators. and even lara was able to drop trout hard. so dropping trout doesnt mean much unless u believe lara is also a huge puncher.

cotto fought like he normally did in his last few fights. bouncing on his feet, throwing stiff jabs and combos. the fight was competitive and his face is easy to mark up. but by cotto's standards it didnt look that bad almost comparable to his face after the floyd fight.

canelos power is impossible to believe because he KO'ed a light heavyweight, is hurting big guys like callum, hurting heavyweights in sparring. u dont just go from not being able to knockdown an old mosley or cotto to KO'ing a light heavyweight and hurting heavyweights in sparring unless ur a big time roider like canelo is. thats just facts and common sense.

[Divine Hammer]

Only if you knew anything about boxing....

First, you're making it seem like Canelo didn't brutalize the fk out them which he obviously did.

Second, your making it seem like he was 22-23 when he fought those fights.

Thrid, you are taking about fights that were in thair prime making these KOs.

GTFOH with your weak arguments.

he didnt brutalize mosley or cotto. those were both competitive fights. he beat up angulo but never dropped him or stopped him in the same way that kirkland did to a prime angulo.

mosley compared canelo's power to floyd. so canelo went from having floyd type power to tyson type power beating up light heavyweights and heavyweights. not natural use ur brain.

[james240]

he didnt brutalize mosley or cotto. those were both competitive fights. he beat up angulo but never dropped him or stopped him in the same way that kirkland did to a prime angulo.

mosley compared canelo's power to floyd. so canelo went from having floyd type power to tyson type power beating up light heavyweights and heavyweights. not natural use ur brain.

Canelo fought Mosley in 2012 are you saying in 8 years a fighter cant get stronger?

Do you know how ****** that logic is?

[sunny31]

I don't know what fight you were watching if you don't think Trout looked more tentative than usual. Canelo's counters had him staying busy throwing a lot of pawing shots when he'd never been reluctant to trade in the past. Every once in a while Trout would try to mix things up but Canelo would knock him on his heels and have him think better of it. That fight didn't even feature much action yet Canelo dropped him hard and had him doing the chicken dance.

As for Cotto, again that was largely a boxing match in which Cotto spent much of the fight circling away and throwing a lot of tapping shots instead of digging in like normal. And again, even without a lot of intense action, Cotto was bloodied and battered by the end.

The fact that you both brought up the Mosley fight when he was 21 speaks volumes. You might as well bring up Ryan Rhodes while you're at it.

At any rate, not only has Canelo evolved from fight to fight and stylistically changed by pressing on the front foot, his mindset in the ring is very different. In some of his past fights he seemed content to do enough to bank in the rounds and clinch a decision, but ever since he accepted GGG's Mexican style challenge in the rematch (and beat him at his own game), he seems more eager to make a statement. He had the Callum fight in the bag going into the championship rounds yet was pushing for the stoppage which he was unable to secure (credit to Callum's heart and resilience) yet you insist his power is impossible to believe? Yeah, okay. More like you're unwilling to give boxing's p4p king his just due for a dominant performance.

You're reaching bro - I admire the attempt but I'm not buying, and I dont think any neutral is either.

There is an element that he has learned to fight off the front foot, I'll even say that he was probably taking something out of himself in those last 2-3 fights at 54.

But he is like a piece of iron now, and his punches look and sound so much heavier. It's not just the extra weight, it's the effect the punches are having on his opponents, it's the thud, it's the stamina. It's the inconsistency in his look when there is random testing / a full training camp.

It's like Pac all over again...and you know what? I was one of the pac defenders on here for a long time.

I know your a fan, but wake up and smell the coffee bro.

[Pac=Duran]

I will eat my hat.

This is a fighter who couldn't hurt many smaller fighters is now absolutely tearing through these bigger guys like nothing...short camp is highly su****ious. He caved Smith's arm in like burger meat

Of course he is. All top fighters are. The ****ed up thing here is that Clenelo was obviously cycling and didn't give Callum a chance to get on the cycle

[Divine Hammer]

Canelo fought Mosley in 2012 are you saying in 8 years a fighter cant get stronger?

Do you know how ****** that logic is?

u can but not by much. canelo went from having floyd type power (confirmed by mosley) to now tyson level power KO'ing light heavyweights and hurting heavyweights in sparring. u think that sounds natural????? because it doesn't. get a clue pls.