If that kid is not on PED's...

[lieutenant]

Just sitting back enjoying the meltdowns. This reminds me of the the night Kovalev got KTFO. The theme that night was it was fixed and Kovalev took a dive, tonight its Canelo is roided to the gills.

[BodyBagz]

I think Smith was very heavily weight drained, which might explain why he didn’t show much in the way of punch resistance. Kovalev has shown signs of a weak chin ever since he got knocked out by Ward, who’s not noted for being a big ****er.

That said, the amount of impact that Canelo‘s punches has isn’t normal. I said during the fight that it was like he had rocks in his gloves. Even if Smith was very drained like I think he was, I’m not sure that fully explains away the force of his shots. I’m not going to straight up accuse him of anything but considering that the whole “Mexican beef” fiasco was fairly recent and was never conclusively settled one way or another, I’m not going to blame anybody who’s su****ious of him.

Any excuse will do

[james240]

Just sitting back enjoying the meltdowns. This reminds me of the the night Kovalev got KTFO. The theme that night was it was fixed and Kovalev took a dive, tonight its Canelo is roided to the gills.

Its really sad they dont enjoy watching a modern ATG at his peak.

[sunny31]

Canelo has always hit like a truck. You clearly didn't follow his career since early on.

Make a thread and a poll, the evidence does not support that claim

[sunny31]

Its really sad they dont enjoy watching a modern ATG at his peak.

I prefer the clean versions, I'll still always watch Canelo fight. Even though it's obvious he is cheating hes still got remarkable skill and ability.

I just admire the guys who did it clean throughout their careers ie Nonito Donaire

[Divine Hammer]

Canelo has always hit like a truck. You clearly didn't follow his career since early on.

then how come he couldnt even knockdown mosley????? a much smaller pac was able to knockdown mosley but not the much bigger supposedly harder hitting canelo.

how come he couldn't take out angluo the same way kirkland did??? canelo was landing shot after shot on angulo, but he never even went down.

how come canelo couldnt even hurt an old past prime small cotto even though sadam ali easily could??????

now canelo is able to KO light heavyweights. extremely su****ious hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[BodyBagz]

Make a thread and a poll, the evidence does not support that claim

You made a thread with the word IF in the title

[Earl-Hickey]

He's the most obvious I've seen since Povetkins really obvious phase. He is 100% absoloutley juiced to the gills, but it is what it is in this sport we forgive guys for juicing all the time I just don't care any more.

[Roadblock]

I will eat my hat.

This is a fighter who couldn't hurt many smaller fighters is now absolutely tearing through these bigger guys like nothing...short camp is highly su****ious. He caved Smith's arm in like burger meat

For starters its you who is the kid and if you actually know boxing and watch its his boxing ability thats beating them.

[Caxcan]

I dont think Trout was that tentative, he out threw and outlanded Canelo. A shot Shane Mosley stood in front of him.

He threw the same zinging punches back then they just didnt have as much power on them, like nowhere near. He also wasnt particularly strong in the back half of fights - if you really want to see it you will. Trust me I'm not looking for it, but it's so obvious.

mosley was trading toe to toe with canelo. cotto was fighting like he usually does by boxing and moving and throwing combos. canelo never came close to dropping or stopping them, but he can now KO a 180+ lb kovalev with two punches????? he busted up callum smiths arm badly, bloodied him badly.

I don't know what fight you were watching if you don't think Trout looked more tentative than usual. Canelo's counters had him staying busy throwing a lot of pawing shots when he'd never been reluctant to trade in the past. Every once in a while Trout would try to mix things up but Canelo would knock him on his heels and have him think better of it. That fight didn't even feature much action yet Canelo dropped him hard and had him doing the chicken dance.

As for Cotto, again that was largely a boxing match in which Cotto spent much of the fight circling away and throwing a lot of tapping shots instead of digging in like normal. And again, even without a lot of intense action, Cotto was bloodied and battered by the end.

The fact that you both brought up the Mosley fight when he was 21 speaks volumes. You might as well bring up Ryan Rhodes while you're at it.

At any rate, not only has Canelo evolved from fight to fight and stylistically changed by pressing on the front foot, his mindset in the ring is very different. In some of his past fights he seemed content to do enough to bank in the rounds and clinch a decision, but ever since he accepted GGG's Mexican style challenge in the rematch (and beat him at his own game), he seems more eager to make a statement. He had the Callum fight in the bag going into the championship rounds yet was pushing for the stoppage which he was unable to secure (credit to Callum's heart and resilience) yet you insist his power is impossible to believe? Yeah, okay. More like you're unwilling to give boxing's p4p king his just due for a dominant performance.