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  • Curt Henning
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    #31
    Originally posted by The plunger man
    most world champions didn’t want to go near golovkin when he was 28 or 29....Sergio Martinez wouldn’t touch Him....billy joe Saunders openly admitted he would stay away.
    As for canelo golovkin won those 2 fights and was unlucky in most people’s opinion....so he deserves at least to see if can turn it around.....yes canelo is slight favourite though
    sorry..i dont buy the "golovkin won those 2 fights and was unlucky in mosts opinion"...i saw the fights too...my opinion is different and id say youd probably find a 50/50 split on that around here too......youre entitled to your opinion on that but dont act like everyone is basically on your side...especially the 2nd fight...i saw it too...i saw golovkin beg for a certain type of fight...i saw canelo give it to him and beat him at it....

    billy joe saunders is basically still a nobody...his resume is not good...i could care less if he ducked a golovkin fight...hes done nothing that proves to me hes top level yet....and hes a bit wack job upstairs also...

    martinez avoided him for the same reason golovkin avoided ward....because at that point golovkin was a nobody and the appeal of an MSG ppv against cotto was much greater....same with a chavez fight...the same way golovkin, who at the time needed big fights and claimed hed go 168, was chasing the money and allure of a guy that hadnt even fought at a full 160 limit yet(canelo)......when martinez was nearing the end of his line golovkin was starting to rise as a name....youre acting like it was a straight up avoidance...it just wasnt great timing

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    • 4truth
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      #32
      Originally posted by Legends456
      I like GGG, but he takes way too many shots. He’s still good, but let’s not forget who he was fighting today. He still isn’t the same fighter he was in 2013.
      Sadly, this is the truth of it. I’m a fan but he’s getting slower and slower. Most fighters at this stage would be done but GGG’s chin lets him get away with a lot. Only I’m afraid there is a bill coming due.

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      • The plunger man
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        #33
        Originally posted by Curt Henning
        sorry..i dont buy the "golovkin won those 2 fights and was unlucky in mosts opinion"...i saw the fights too...my opinion is different and id say youd probably find a 50/50 split on that around here too......youre entitled to your opinion on that but dont act like everyone is basically on your side...especially the 2nd fight...i saw it too...i saw golovkin beg for a certain type of fight...i saw canelo give it to him and beat him at it....

        billy joe saunders is basically still a nobody...his resume is not good...i could care less if he ducked a golovkin fight...hes done nothing that proves to me hes top level yet....and hes a bit wack job upstairs also...

        martinez avoided him for the same reason golovkin avoided ward....because at that point golovkin was a nobody and the appeal of an MSG ppv against cotto was much greater....same with a chavez fight...the same way golovkin, who at the time needed big fights and claimed hed go 168, was chasing the money and allure of a guy that hadnt even fought at a full 160 limit yet(canelo)......when martinez was nearing the end of his line golovkin was starting to rise as a name....youre acting like it was a straight up avoidance...it just wasnt great timing
        ward was never at 160...Martinez was at 160.
        Look I’m not saying golovkin won easy....I’m saying it was a close fight and could easy see it from both sides.
        What I’m saying is golovkin should have a third fight because to me we still have a definitive answer who was the winner......ok say canelo has the 2nd fight ....golovkin won the 1st....so it’s one all

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          #34
          Originally posted by The plunger man
          ward was never at 160...Martinez was at 160.
          Look I’m not saying golovkin won easy....I’m saying it was a close fight and could easy see it from both sides.
          What I’m saying is golovkin should have a third fight because to me we still have a definitive answer who was the winner......ok say canelo has the 2nd fight ....golovkin won the 1st....so it’s one all
          At this point it point it would mean nothing to any unbiased fan of the sport. That is unless Golovkin won it clearly, which considering where each is in their respective careers, would be nearly impossible.

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            #35
            Originally posted by The plunger man
            ward was never at 160...Martinez was at 160.
            Look I’m not saying golovkin won easy....I’m saying it was a close fight and could easy see it from both sides.
            What I’m saying is golovkin should have a third fight because to me we still have a definitive answer who was the winner......ok say canelo has the 2nd fight ....golovkin won the 1st....so it’s one all
            i get that...i just dont think anyone is really convinced that golovkin can do any better...in fact most feel it could only get worse for him....him dropping szeremata 4x doesnt change much of that opinion

            golovkin said "anyone from 154-168" and "im looking for big fights no one wants to fight me"...ward contacted them and they said "no" because they were chasing the canelo fight...abel had been running around saying he thought 168 would be golovkins best weight also.....you cant play the "well that guy didnt fight at 160" game....it was a viable fight and golovkin was publically calling for people to step up....the truth was he wanted guys like froch and chavez at 168 but not someone as good and as skilled as ward......if you take golovkin blinders off you can clearly see that....

            like i said...martinez was at the end of his line and was chasing a big fight like cotto too....and golovkin was still trying to make himself a big, viable, name....did martinez "duck"??? well maybe...but maybe not truly either

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              #36
              Originally posted by Legends456
              I like GGG, but he takes way too many shots. He’s still good, but let’s not forget who he was fighting today. He still isn’t the same fighter he was in 2013.
              I was very impressed with his defense last night. He not only barely got hit, but he evaded punches in (for him) new and creative ways.

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                #37
                Originally posted by 4truth
                At this point it point it would mean nothing to any unbiased fan of the sport. That is unless Golovkin won it clearly, which considering where each is in their respective careers, would be nearly impossible.
                yeah but he should be allowed to at least have a go....maybe me he will really turn the valve up and try and canelo out of there.
                He knows he won’t get a fair shake with the judges.
                And honestly if you was golovkin and you felt you was cheated wouldn’t you want to prove it again.
                We didn’t get this with Ali & Frazier or Robinson vs Lamotta or pacquaio vs Marquez.
                golovkin has been a great champion and he deserves his last shot at revenge.

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                • BirdSong
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                  #38
                  new physique, check, new bum dispatched, check, ggg wants nelo, check?

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                  • The plunger man
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by 4truth
                    Sadly, this is the truth of it. I’m a fan but he’s getting slower and slower. Most fighters at this stage would be done but GGG’s chin lets him get away with a lot. Only I’m afraid there is a bill coming due.
                    most boxers end there career not on the best terms and it’s in there DNA.....you tell me one great that left with all the glory and I’ll tell you a thousand that didn’t.
                    He still looked powerful , good accuracy and on point with his footwork so he far from shot and if he looked shot I would say yeah stay away and retire

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                      #40
                      Still p4p in his weight class?

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