Anthony Joshua has become very, very underrated recently.

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  • The plunger man
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    #61
    Originally posted by soul_survivor
    This website is ****e so duh!

    But real boxing fans know AJ fought all the champions around him and Wilder now even admits to turning down the fight otherwise AJ would already be undisputed...but yeah he apparently hasnt fought anyone AND he wanted to duck Wilder lol

    Heck, I can't remember if it was the Good Morning interview or somewhere else but Fury claimed he has been calling AJ out since 2015...the same 2015 in which Fury got depressed, didn't box again for 3 years and AJ started the year on his 11th fight lol

    But I guarantee if this sites "journalists" got a hold of the interview or the usual racists posters on here they'd say "see, AJ been ducking Fury for 5 years" lol
    I saw that interview lol....what absolute bollocks fury was awol 3 years ago and was 370lb and messed up lol.
    Joshua has the best resume in the division and yeah he lost but it happens if you get caught...it’s learning from it that separates the good from the bad.
    They have all said it..,first it was whyte beats him , then ****** people said Martin , then breazeale , klitchcko , Parker , povetkin and now pulev and they will pick fury but Joshua will still out fury away.
    It’s how they are and they ain’t going to change with picking against him

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      #62
      AJ is still ranked top 2 or 3 in the world, prob at number 2 ahead of wilder now, by almost everyone, so number 2 is not underrated.

      he is going to be super prepared and very cautious these days. it was 7 years between lennox's KO losses, took him 7 years to get comlacent again, AJ wont be complacent like he was from ruiz 1 for a long time. Wilder had a good chance to spark out AJ from before ruiz 1, now I think only Fury can beat him. I would pick Fury to win, he comes to win 12, not hope for a KO that never happens.

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        #63
        Originally posted by The plunger man
        I saw that interview lol....what absolute bollocks fury was awol 3 years ago and was 370lb and messed up lol.
        Joshua has the best resume in the division and yeah he lost but it happens if you get caught...it’s learning from it that separates the good from the bad.
        They have all said it..,first it was whyte beats him , then ****** people said Martin , then breazeale , klitchcko , Parker , povetkin and now pulev and they will pick fury but Joshua will still out fury away.
        It’s how they are and they ain’t going to change with picking against him


        debateable that he has a better resume than fury. they both got klitschko, fury with a younger more prime klitschko and also the wilder win. like some shot povetkin and a white win makes up for stopping undefeated wilder.

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        • PRINCEKOOL
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          #64
          Originally posted by The plunger man
          I think Lennox was more mid range...bowe and Holyfield were both good at close quarters.....what I mean by Joshua is he can hurt you when he is close and has developed that uppercut nicely and can land that at ease.
          Joshua is better mid range as most big men are.
          If fury chooses to get in close with Joshua he gets hurt ..he might have the size but for 270lb man his punching power is weak.
          Joshua can hurt you close up or from a distance and we saw that with klitchcko and pulev.
          Of course he is not on the level of who we mentioned but he will be dangerous for fury for sure.
          Mercer was another great inside fighter but I think it’s the size really that helps the inside game.
          I only mentioned Lewis & Bowe due to them being super heavyweights 'There are no Super heavyweights active now, who have elite level inside game'.

          Of course Holyfield & Bowe were on a different level.

          Long range = Straight punches.

          Mid Range = Hooks.

          Inside = Almost shoulder to shoulder.

          Fury has a better inside game than Joshua, but Joshua is better mid range 'Then Fury better from long range' etc

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          • soul_survivor
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            #65
            Originally posted by The plunger man
            I saw that interview lol....what absolute bollocks fury was awol 3 years ago and was 370lb and messed up lol.
            Joshua has the best resume in the division and yeah he lost but it happens if you get caught...it’s learning from it that separates the good from the bad.
            They have all said it..,first it was whyte beats him , then ****** people said Martin , then breazeale , klitchcko , Parker , povetkin and now pulev and they will pick fury but Joshua will still out fury away.
            It’s how they are and they ain’t going to change with picking against him
            Yeah, Fury just can not help himself from chatting utter bollocks....and then when it comes to fight he will pick on midgets or z level guys no one has heard of.

            I say this as someone who thinks Fury has the skill and size to beat AJ and I was very impressed with the way he handled Wilder in the rematch but this guys career is so low on quality opposition. Remember, most of us in the UK have watched him since his channel 5 days which was like 12 years ago lol...that's 2 solid wins in 12 years.

            Originally posted by el***
            debateable that he has a better resume than fury. they both got klitschko, fury with a younger more prime klitschko and also the wilder win. like some shot povetkin and a white win makes up for stopping undefeated wilder.
            The hell you on about? AJ has beat all the other champions and top contenders in his division. He would have had Ortiz and Wilder if both guys had not ducked him....and they have both admitted to it too lol

            Fury only had Wlad by barely scratching through a decision in what was regarded then, and if you don't change history, still one of the worst heavyweight championship bouts in history. He then beat useless Wilder who most actual boxing fans have always known to be useless.

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            • Stuntman Mike
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              #66
              Originally posted by Kezzer
              He’s not willing to “take one to give one” - are you sure your a boxing fan? Clearly you don’t know boxing very well if that is your expectation. The aim of boxing is to hit and not to be hit; have you seen any of the top heavyweights ever aim to do that? Smaller class fighters eg Carl froch - can do that - but not at heavyweight class. Fury and wilder both can’t and don’t do that technique either.

              “Counter in punching range” - ok you really are just a hater. Go watch the Ruiz rematch and even more so the Pulev match and you will see regular counter punches. His first knockdown all started from a right hand counter punch
              I said countering in range,fury will be boxing and throwing on the outside ,joshua to land a punch on fury will have to be in his opponants punching range

              And judging his reactions from taking a punch and thinking more about defence than offence will be his downfall

              Hes really going ti have to shake that sludge from his drawers before the fight and bite down on his gumshield to beat fury

              Something he doesnt have in him anymore since ruiz took his soul

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              • KingHippo
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                #67
                Fury embarrasses him in my opinion. But this version of Joshua is underrated. Some people see his performance against Ruiz as a negative, I see it as a positive. I was thoroughly impressed with how he composed himself and how he carried out his game plan. Being able to regroup and adjust after the kind of defeat he had is a sign of greatness.

                With that being said, he simply doesn't have the tools to beat Fury. Very few do, if any.

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                • Kezzer
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Stuntman Mike
                  I said countering in range,fury will be boxing and throwing on the outside ,joshua to land a punch on fury will have to be in his opponants punching range

                  And judging his reactions from taking a punch and thinking more about defence than offence will be his downfall

                  Hes really going ti have to shake that sludge from his drawers before the fight and bite down on his gumshield to beat fury

                  Something he doesnt have in him anymore since ruiz took his soul
                  Based on two fights in which he won every round of the fight?? Lol

                  There isn’t much to please haters but I don’t think many fighters would be capable of winning so emphatically against Ruiz and Pulev. Would fury have done better?

                  History tells us fury ko % is 67 and against significantly lower class opponents. The likes of Wallin, Chisora, Johnson and even Zack Page have managed to take fury the distance - and he doesn’t win every round when he does despite everybody on this forum claiming he is a boxing machine. That doesn’t mean I don’t rate fury, I do - but people who think he isn’t vulnerable at all on here based on a win and a draw - are kidding themselves.

                  Wilder would have the best chance of beating the performance with his knock out power but there are questions for him too. His best win is Ortiz, but he hasn’t taken on much other than that. In both those fights he was losing before finding the KO and Pulev in particular has a strong jab so you would expect a similar outcome required.

                  It’s also something to consider around fury. Fury was rightly given credit for the Klitschko win but obviously never allowed the rematch (which Klitschko was favourite for) to happen. His other performances were against wilder, one of the main arguments is that fury could outbox wilder for 12 rounds and was doing so in the first fight - but then that happens to wilder a lot; he’s never been known to win a boxing match has wilder - that’s not his strength at all. As for knocking him out in the second match - that was obviously a super performance but again it’s not completely unheard of, even Molina had Wilder wobbled for example. Heavyweights can win in any match up and fury got a win and a draw out of those two fights so will be pleased - but it doesn’t guarantee him a win even if he is considered a favourite.
                  Last edited by Kezzer; 12-28-2020, 06:59 PM.

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                  • The plunger man
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                    I only mentioned Lewis & Bowe due to them being super heavyweights 'There are no Super heavyweights active now, who have elite level inside game'.

                    Of course Holyfield & Bowe were on a different level.

                    Long range = Straight punches.

                    Mid Range = Hooks.

                    Inside = Almost shoulder to shoulder.

                    Fury has a better inside game than Joshua, but Joshua is better mid range 'Then Fury better from long range' etc
                    fury has not proved himself as an inside fighter unless you class him beating wilder who had no strength and has only a right hand....wallin was beating fury on the inside.

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                    • PRINCEKOOL
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by The plunger man
                      fury has not proved himself as an inside fighter unless you class him beating wilder who had no strength and has only a right hand....wallin was beating fury on the inside.
                      Tyson Fury has a inside game, but it is not very advanced.

                      There are no real inside fighting heavyweights these days.

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