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The inspiration come from Joshua's ATG status being questioned too often while Jack's status is not often enough.
Joshua is a true world champion whose record and achievements reflect that.
Jack Dempsey is "world" champion when only the white were allowed title shots and few nations in this world gave a damn about boxing. His record and achievements reflect that as well.
Joshua has fought on a more global and inclusive scale and continues winning.
Jack fought white America with a only three non-americans to his career. Jack also only fought one, b-side, colored ranked HW, and lost to him. I realize when you boxrec Jack's record you see a draw to Lester Johnson. It was a draw in only one paper's review....which is also noted on boxrec. No one else in history gets this treatment. No one else has two sources that claim loss and one that says draw and we go with the draw, everyone else is consensus and consensus says the one outing with a black HW Jack was in Jack lost.
On top of this who can claim AJ ducked them? Wilder? And y'all don't even accept that one so who is left?
Dempsey ducked Langford, Jeanette, Wills, McVey, and Norfolk with his only excuse being but dey black doe and while bull**** artists might tell you the public doe no. Look into it. The papers polled the public and the most requested guy for Dempsey to face was Wills. In the case of Langford Dempsey admits to ducking him. In the case of Norfolk Leo Flynn and Ring Oliender both call Jack out on that **** after Norfolk took out Tate. These are not maybe ducks like Joshua and Wilder. These are without a doubt ducks. He ducked those men. Plenty in his day pointed out he could fight them, the public wants it, the bodies want it, Jack was why Jack did not fight the best of his era.
Did anyone Joshua ducked beat up anyone he fought? No, 'cause Josh ducks no man. Most of Jack's resume features men who either came into their Jack fight having lost to a man Jack is ducking or lost to a man Jack is ducking pretty immediately after Jack.
But you might think, so did Corbett-Johnson. No though. Sullivan and Willard ducked. Corbett, Fitzs, Jeffries, Hart, Burns, and Johnson all fought black men either before or during their reign. They all took a fight with either the current or a former colored champion where Jack Dempsey never did. Not before, not during, not after. Best Jack did was lose to a man who was never a colored champion early in Dempsey's career. Jeffries was very dominant clearing out the colored and two pretense titlists before being the lineal. Dempsey ain't **** to those men.
Which brings us to who is the bigger hypejob. Joshua's **** is well hyped, but, at least Joshua fights among the best available. Take you a peek at Dempsey - Carpentier and the first million dollar gate. The **** did those people pay to see? The best white american who fights white americans exclusively against a french ****er already taken out by Jeanette and Dixie. Blacks Dempsey is scared of. Yes, Georges was willing to fight a black man, and, get got his ass kicked too. Lost to Siki after.
If Wilder only fought other black Americans and KO'd Takam who would give a ****? Yeah, making that fight something the whole boxing world gives a **** about is without any doubt the biggest hypejob ever in the history of boxing.
Finally, Dempsey lost to a LHW who never bothered to do a damn thing at HW outside of beating Jack. Sure, Joshua lost to a fat man, but he's a top ranked fat man who has other wins in the division, and Josh won his rematch.
Joshua:
Championship Record
Has a record of 7-0-0 (6 KO’s) in world title fights.
Has a record of 4-0-0 (3 KO’s) against former, current, and future world champions:
Won against Charles Martin, Wladimir Klitschko, Joseph Parker & Alexander Povetkin.
Defeated 5 undefeated opponents with ten or more bouts: Gary Cornish, Dillian Whyte, Charles Martin, Dominic Breazeale & Joseph Parker.
Defeated 17 foreign fighters: Emanuele Leo, Hrvoje Kisicek, Hector Avila, Konstantin Airich, Denis Bakhtov, Jason Gavern, Raphael Zumbano Love, Kevin Johnson, Charles Martin, Dominic Breazeale, Éric Molina, Wladimir Klitschko, Carlos Takam, Joseph Parker, Alexander Povetkin, Andy Ruiz Jr., Kubrat Pulev.
Dempsey:
Championship Record
6 opponents (5 by KO) beaten for the World Heavyweight Title.
Has a record of 1-0-0 (1 KO) against former, current, and future world champions: Jess Willard
Defeated 0 undefeated opponents with ten or more bouts.
Defeated 3 foreign opponents: Arthur Pelkey, Georges Carpentier, Luis Ángel Firpo.
What can be said for Jack Dempsey? But our grandpas believed in his **** doe? No son, I know my history and I'm telling y'all Anthony Joshua is a better champion than Jack Dempsey was. AJ is already an ATG.
Dempsey was tough, Dempsey could hit, Dempsey had stamina. Resume? Not so much. Dominance? Yer joking. Awards? Meh.
The only way Jack Dempsey out ranks Anthony Joshua is if you pay no attention to conduct and rank solely based on what old historians who make **** up say to you.
Mike ****ing Casey looks like an old drunk who makes **** up because he is. His article on Dempsey is littered with bull**** that's easily sourced.
For example, if you read the historical review on it, guys like Casey including Casey will tell you Dempsey in retirement got frustrated with Galento's sparring so he stepped in the ring and KO'd Tony. Check the source they give you and whadda ya know, the actual newpaper article is about Jack being frustrated with his daughter's birth and working out some energy with Galento while giving him pointers. No one claimed Tony was KO'd but these **** suckers who call themselves historians. His lip is bloody. From bloody lip to ****ing KO, from showing Tony how to, to ****ing him up 'cause Jack's tired of watching him box ****ty. What good trust worthy historians these are. Best to rate Dempsey highly and claim none of our kids can touch him 'cause grandpa makes **** up and we believe our grandpas.
Joshua is a true world champion whose record and achievements reflect that.
Jack Dempsey is "world" champion when only the white were allowed title shots and few nations in this world gave a damn about boxing. His record and achievements reflect that as well.
Joshua has fought on a more global and inclusive scale and continues winning.
Jack fought white America with a only three non-americans to his career. Jack also only fought one, b-side, colored ranked HW, and lost to him. I realize when you boxrec Jack's record you see a draw to Lester Johnson. It was a draw in only one paper's review....which is also noted on boxrec. No one else in history gets this treatment. No one else has two sources that claim loss and one that says draw and we go with the draw, everyone else is consensus and consensus says the one outing with a black HW Jack was in Jack lost.
On top of this who can claim AJ ducked them? Wilder? And y'all don't even accept that one so who is left?
Dempsey ducked Langford, Jeanette, Wills, McVey, and Norfolk with his only excuse being but dey black doe and while bull**** artists might tell you the public doe no. Look into it. The papers polled the public and the most requested guy for Dempsey to face was Wills. In the case of Langford Dempsey admits to ducking him. In the case of Norfolk Leo Flynn and Ring Oliender both call Jack out on that **** after Norfolk took out Tate. These are not maybe ducks like Joshua and Wilder. These are without a doubt ducks. He ducked those men. Plenty in his day pointed out he could fight them, the public wants it, the bodies want it, Jack was why Jack did not fight the best of his era.
Did anyone Joshua ducked beat up anyone he fought? No, 'cause Josh ducks no man. Most of Jack's resume features men who either came into their Jack fight having lost to a man Jack is ducking or lost to a man Jack is ducking pretty immediately after Jack.
But you might think, so did Corbett-Johnson. No though. Sullivan and Willard ducked. Corbett, Fitzs, Jeffries, Hart, Burns, and Johnson all fought black men either before or during their reign. They all took a fight with either the current or a former colored champion where Jack Dempsey never did. Not before, not during, not after. Best Jack did was lose to a man who was never a colored champion early in Dempsey's career. Jeffries was very dominant clearing out the colored and two pretense titlists before being the lineal. Dempsey ain't **** to those men.
Which brings us to who is the bigger hypejob. Joshua's **** is well hyped, but, at least Joshua fights among the best available. Take you a peek at Dempsey - Carpentier and the first million dollar gate. The **** did those people pay to see? The best white american who fights white americans exclusively against a french ****er already taken out by Jeanette and Dixie. Blacks Dempsey is scared of. Yes, Georges was willing to fight a black man, and, get got his ass kicked too. Lost to Siki after.
If Wilder only fought other black Americans and KO'd Takam who would give a ****? Yeah, making that fight something the whole boxing world gives a **** about is without any doubt the biggest hypejob ever in the history of boxing.
Finally, Dempsey lost to a LHW who never bothered to do a damn thing at HW outside of beating Jack. Sure, Joshua lost to a fat man, but he's a top ranked fat man who has other wins in the division, and Josh won his rematch.
Joshua:
Championship Record
Has a record of 7-0-0 (6 KO’s) in world title fights.
Has a record of 4-0-0 (3 KO’s) against former, current, and future world champions:
Won against Charles Martin, Wladimir Klitschko, Joseph Parker & Alexander Povetkin.
Defeated 5 undefeated opponents with ten or more bouts: Gary Cornish, Dillian Whyte, Charles Martin, Dominic Breazeale & Joseph Parker.
Defeated 17 foreign fighters: Emanuele Leo, Hrvoje Kisicek, Hector Avila, Konstantin Airich, Denis Bakhtov, Jason Gavern, Raphael Zumbano Love, Kevin Johnson, Charles Martin, Dominic Breazeale, Éric Molina, Wladimir Klitschko, Carlos Takam, Joseph Parker, Alexander Povetkin, Andy Ruiz Jr., Kubrat Pulev.
Dempsey:
Championship Record
6 opponents (5 by KO) beaten for the World Heavyweight Title.
Has a record of 1-0-0 (1 KO) against former, current, and future world champions: Jess Willard
Defeated 0 undefeated opponents with ten or more bouts.
Defeated 3 foreign opponents: Arthur Pelkey, Georges Carpentier, Luis Ángel Firpo.
What can be said for Jack Dempsey? But our grandpas believed in his **** doe? No son, I know my history and I'm telling y'all Anthony Joshua is a better champion than Jack Dempsey was. AJ is already an ATG.
Dempsey was tough, Dempsey could hit, Dempsey had stamina. Resume? Not so much. Dominance? Yer joking. Awards? Meh.
The only way Jack Dempsey out ranks Anthony Joshua is if you pay no attention to conduct and rank solely based on what old historians who make **** up say to you.
Mike ****ing Casey looks like an old drunk who makes **** up because he is. His article on Dempsey is littered with bull**** that's easily sourced.
For example, if you read the historical review on it, guys like Casey including Casey will tell you Dempsey in retirement got frustrated with Galento's sparring so he stepped in the ring and KO'd Tony. Check the source they give you and whadda ya know, the actual newpaper article is about Jack being frustrated with his daughter's birth and working out some energy with Galento while giving him pointers. No one claimed Tony was KO'd but these **** suckers who call themselves historians. His lip is bloody. From bloody lip to ****ing KO, from showing Tony how to, to ****ing him up 'cause Jack's tired of watching him box ****ty. What good trust worthy historians these are. Best to rate Dempsey highly and claim none of our kids can touch him 'cause grandpa makes **** up and we believe our grandpas.
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